Friday, August 05, 2005

More wrong with the "Right"

Jerry & Sun Myung Moon

In 1994 Falwell quietly accepted $3.5 million from Korean cult messiah Sun Myung Moon as part of a larger deal to bail Liberty University out from under its horrendous debt load. Perhaps Jerry was moved by this staggering generosity. That might be the reason why Falwell publicly urged his friend President Reagan to pardon Moon's tax evasion conviction.

I know I have promised to post on the "Whore Babylon". I am working on it
but still have more research on the subject before I post, but This post is not
off topic, If you have an ear to hear. I just had to put this before you.
Below is an email sent by Jerry Falwell to the members of the Moral Majority, in response to a direct challenge to Falwell (et al)'s monopoly on "Christian Values(tm)" from a new organization called the Christian Alliance for Progress ( This silly bunch dared to assert that Falwell (et al) are not Jesus' latter-day conduits on political and scriptural issues. Falwell's response is so full of gaping logical, hermeneutic, and scriptural holes, it begs for rebuttal. The challengers are (predictably) collecting rebuttals to send to Falwell (and other interested parties). Please remember, according to the Washington Post, Reverend Falwell is one of the people the White House has asked for input on the Supreme Court nominee. At this point in time, Falwell's Christianity IS American Christianity, and that delusion is killing multitudes, while deforming the lives of millions. It is long past time to publicly, vocally, and scripturally disavow this heretical greed.
My responses will be in brackets and red letters.
Falwell Confidential Insider weekly newsletter to The Moral Majority Coalition and The Liberty Alliance From: Jerry Falwell Date: July 8, 2005 ANOTHER GROUP ARRIVES TO COMBAT THE 'RELIGIOUS RIGHT' Last month, a new leftist religious organization announced its inception to battle the alleged domination that Dr. James Dobson, Pat Robertson and I have on modern-day politics. This organization, the Christian Alliance for Progress, is hardly "Christian." You may say, Falwell, that's a pretty harsh statement. Well, let's take a look at this new group so we can determine if they are actually exhibiting the precepts of true Christianity. In announcing its formation, the Christian Alliance for Progress unveiled what it called its "Jacksonville Declaration," an open letter to the political and church leaders of the religious right, which "challenges and invites them to return to a Christian foundation of compassion and justice, values that Jesus passionately taught and lived." First, the sole purpose for Jesus' ministry on earth was stated in His own words: "... for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost" (Luke 19:30). {that is exactly what they do not do, they have come to condemn}
Any organization that deems to calls itself "Christian," simply must have as its basis the reality that Jesus asserted that salvation could come only through Him. I wonder if the leadership of the Christian Alliance for Progress would state that Jesus Christ, who conquered death following His crucifixion, is the singular avenue to eternal life in heaven? If not, how can the name Christian be suitable for this organization? {here he uses innuendo to discredit. He infers that they do not believe in salvation by the Cross of Christ}
Second, the Christian Alliance for Progress says it will "speak out when conservative Christians misrepresent the gospel to support their misguided political positions." These positions include "equality for gays and lesbians" {would Jesus have treated anyone with inequality?} and
"honoring the sanctity of childbearing decisions through effective prevention, not criminalization of abortion." {Please read my post on "Love & Choice" below, it has a sound biblical foundation.} It sounds like the Alliance got its talking points from Howard Dean. The group is simply falling in line with untold numbers of past liberal church groups that have promoted abortion-rights, homosexual rights and anti-war sentiments. Joseph Loconte recently commented in the Wall Street Journal (July 1, 2005) that while the Christian Alliance for Progress claims to be "firmly founded on the teachings of the Gospel," students of the Gospel "may be surprised at how neatly such an agenda fits the Democratic Party platform."{it could be that the Democratic platform is more closely aligned with the teaching of our Lord} Here is a reality of the Bible: it clearly forbids homosexual behavior { it does not} and, for that matter, any sexual activity outside the bonds of male-female marriage. {Then let's take away the rights of all sinners} The Word of God unmistakably speaks against homosexual behavior in Romans chapter 1, describing a time in history when, as today, men and women gave themselves over to unnatural sexual relations. There can be no mistaking that these passages condemn same-sex relationships. The Christian Alliance for Progress can label themselves "Christian," but they are willfully daring to distort and dispute biblical writings forbidding homosexuality. Further, abortion is clearly not the will of God. The Bible does not expressly address abortion, but in Psalm 139, we see a beautiful and remarkable picture of Almighty God ministering to us even within the womb: "But you covered my inward parts; You covered me in my mother's womb. I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Marvelous are Your works" (Psalm 139: 13, 14) Bottom line: personhood begins in the womb at conception; and the Bible is clear -{It is not!! at best this is a matter of interpretation. In this case, King David
is speaking of Gods affection for him even before he was born. The passage shows
Gods foreknowledge and love
} "Thou shalt not kill." I often wonder how in the world leftist theologians can read this dramatic passage and continue to be lost in their abortion-rights quagmire.{Gen:2:7: "And the LORD God formed man of the dust
of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
Life is not the question, animals have life; but here we clearly see when God gives man a soul;
With his first breath.I would also say all our soldiers and those we are killing qualify. How dare he quote " Thou shalt not kill" while supporting American aggression
} The Christian Alliance for Progress describes themselves as "progressive," but their so-called broad-minded efforts toward tolerance have blinded them to how the Bible instructs us to live. Finally, the Alliance calls for peace and an end to war, but they cannot understand that the only true peace that man can know comes through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. He was not a hippie do-gooder, but rather the Son of the Living God who came to earth to pave the one way to heaven for mankind. To present Him as anything less is an outrage. {he was a do-gooder, not a tax brakes to the rich hypocrite} Dr. Ed Hindson, renowned theologian and Liberty University professor,> writing in the August issue of National Liberty Journal,
{their University and their publication, in other words, Jerry's employee,
spouting the party line under the guise of respectability and superiority
} stated: "If liberals want to debate these issues on biblical grounds, let them go right ahead. Because they will lose, not only the debate, but also any influence they might hope to have among spiritually minded people. They are correct when they insist we do not speak for them and they certainly don't speak for us. Their new Alliance for Progress will simply result in one more organization in regress." { I for one will accept that challenge, because
"You can do nothing against the truth"}
Many Americans are seeking to discover the true peace of Christ and real meaning for their lives. While evangelical Christians will continue to be denounced and despised by the fashionable left, {Fashionable? what is he smoking?
we are not the ones in control, sitting in the seats of power
} we must continue to devotedly and passionately take the truth of the Gospel into the world.
{Mt:23:15: "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him
twofold more the child of hell than yourselves."}
It is my sincere pleasure and privilege to be laughed at and scorned {all the way to the bank}
because I have chosen to walk with and live out my life in servitude to the Christ of the Bible. {The truth is his God is Mammon and the capitalist antichrist system.
Again they have dismissed true believers.They know not the Spirit or true Christians because
they know not the Father. They have boiled down Christianity again to the same two issues;
Human gay rights and Choice. On both issues they twist the Bible to make it fit so they can appear to be righteous and Godly. Mt:23:24: "Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel." They care nothing about human suffering around the world.


Living Positive said...

Simply incredible!

I weep for these poor sorry souls.
How can they claim to follow the teachings of Jesus - even in his own words "to seek that which is lost" when what they do is tell people how to think and to behave as money generating sheep. They aren't seeking the lost - the ones who are lost aren't coming to their great cathedrals or their universities.

Saying "Many Americans are seeking to discover the true peace of Christ and real meaning for their lives." is true, but not how he wants to believe it. Many people are turning away from Religion to seek the true Christ because Religion is more often about Power than Christ.

What's worse, when I sit in the diner and hear the young colloege kids say how hypocritical it all is and that they have thrown Christ out all together. I've Been there and done that. How can I explain to them that Christ isn't Religion?

I would even go so far as to say that Religion is the false god in this particular story. The great god of power, wealth, and deceit.

None of this is new, it has been going on since before Jesus came. The great Pharasees lived high on the hog (but not pork) while the multitudes worked out a meager existence.

The Catholic Church quickly filled in that role - I find it disgustingly amazing that nothing has changed.

So many voices in the wilderness have come and gone. Many have awoken, still many more have been hearded in by the wolves in sheep's clothing:

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Peace said...

Hey Jude...

1:8 Yet these men, as a result of their dreams, defile the flesh, reject authority, and insult the glorious ones. 1:9 But even when Michael the archangel was arguing with the devil and debating with him concerning Moses’ body, he did not dare to bring a slanderous judgment, but said, “May the Lord rebuke you!” 1:10 But these men do not understand the things they slander, and they are being destroyed by the very things that, like irrational animals, they instinctively comprehend. 1:11 Woe to them! For they have traveled down Cain’s path, and because of greed have abandoned themselves to Balaam’s error; hence, they will certainly perish in Korah’s rebellion. 1:12 These men are dangerous reefs at your love feasts, feasting without reverence, feeding only themselves. They are waterless clouds, carried along by the winds; autumn trees without fruit—twice dead, uprooted; 1:13 wild sea waves, spewing out the foam of their shame; wayward stars for whom the utter depths of eternal darkness have been reserved.

That was part of the single chapter in, "Jude"... His eagerness to warn of these types of individuals speaks to his brotherhood of those of us who "rebuke" those like Falwell and his ilk.

There are many, many warnings in the bible about this type of person, I find it interesting that Jude's one and only thing he chose to write about is dedicated to the description of the spirit of those like, Falwell...



Peace said...

"These people are grumblers and fault-finders who go wherever their desires lead them, and they give bombastic speeches, enchanting folks for their own gain."

Hey, as well as Falwell's shallow ramblings does this Jude quote remind anyone of Bush's second inauguration speech? However there is always the same "finger pointing" element to all of his public speeches regarding his justification for murder.


Onomax said...

Hi PeterZ, this is the poster formerly known as Bugs.

Heh, you pick too easy a target. I never had much interest in the man myself.

Falwell does, however, correctly point out the true way to peace is through Jesus Christ and Him only. Whether or not his orthopraxy is left wanting is something he will answer for as will we all.

Incidentally you analogized in "Leaving Babylon" that fully 2/3 of all men will make it into heaven, citing that a third of the stars swept out of the sky not only represents the angels but the humans as well.

How do you square this assumption with Matthew 7:13-14 and Luke 13:22-30? (incidentally, my personal bet is that many of the americans and europeans that do make it to heaven will be serving our brethren not of those cultures).

Have a nice day! Come visit anytime!

Peter Zarcone said...

Hello Bugs,
I didn't chose Falwell, he chose us. He seems to want to attack anyone that is not under his leadership. He is a deceiver and being deceived. As far as your other question, I had stated that this was a speculation, but I believe there seems to be a difference between being saved from damnation and the "Kingdom of God" or a " Pillar" Rv:3:12: Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God; "Mark of the High Calling" Phil:3:14: I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus; "Grow Up" Eph:4:15: But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:

Anonymous said...

This is for Onomax (fka Bugs),
What is the name of your website?

Onomax said...

Be advised, at this point I have done little other than to respond to PeterZ and a couple of other folks from Hanchett's blog.

Onomax said...

Ahh, the light comes are directly affiliated with the Christian Alliance for Progress?

Peter Zarcone said...

AHH Buggs check your batteries. Sorry but I am not at all affiliated with them. Although I do agree with most of what I have read of their stuff. I believe they are more closely expressing the spirit of Christ.

Onomax said...

ROFL! That's what I get for using 9V in a 12V system....

When you said, "He chose us..." and reading that he was targeting the CAP, I used linear math.

Peter Zarcone said...

To BuchChaney08.. You have continued to endeavor to post ridicules and disrespectful things on my blog. They will just continue to be deleted. If you want to try to act like an adult and make a respectful contribution, even if it disagrees with what I may say, it is welcome, and I will leave it up. But if you continue to be mocking and hateful, they will be deleted. Let me say this to all, and before God, I am not the same person as Stephen Hantchett. I appreciate the complement, but his ministry, as is apparent to most readers, is very different than mine. I am grateful that the Lord has seen fit to link us together. We seem to be in agreement in spirit, word and vision.

Aj said...


Excellent post! I'm new to this blog, mindful that this post is old, but wanted to give you kudos anyway.
The Robertson/Dobson/Liberty University clan has been firmly in control of the US government for years,thanks to the Christian Coalition of the 90's,(which is currently on the brink of bankrupcy-not that Roberta Combs won't get to keep her BMW ) and it is heresy(if not outright unAmerican) to question any aspect of their fundamental neo-com belief systems.
Some day soon, I fear the tithe pumping pew sitting social church gatherings are going to be in for a shock concerning their 'God-fearing' Christian president & cabinet.
I sent a letter once to the Focuson the Family group asking them to consider focusing part their attention on the blatant abuse of ethical behavior by our 'Christian Elected Officials'. They responded back with a curt " we don't feel that is an area of interest we are led into....."

Imagine that.

hugh lipsius said...

PeterZ...I've read your entire blog...and I am in full agreement with its principles...and now that we have named the deceiver of men...what say all these who have been with you, and with these things, and with each other begin a blog in unison on what direction we should all may take a while to hash these things out...and certainly controversy will arise...but it would seem clear to me now, that our next logical response would be to look to scripture and determine our course...this certainly is not an endevore for one man to determine...but for those who have made this plunge into light to see clearly theirs, and our direction...I believe the answers are is simply for all of us together to mine them out...coming to an agreed upon consenses and follow in the direction that this instructs...

Any thoughts on this?