Sunday, October 02, 2005

Wound to the Head


The Little Horn

In learning about the Antichrist, one of the great questions we seek an answer to concerns what the scripture is talking about when we read in Revelation that the beast receives a mortal wound to one of its heads. Rev: 13: 3: "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." As far as the wound to the head, some have suggested that perhaps it means that Bush’s popularity has dropped and even his staunchest supporters seem to have turned against him. Does this mean “Bush is dead politically and then "miraculously" he will rebound and grab more power and influence than he had before?” (NathanDave) We don't know as yet. It could also be a real mortal wound (although I doubt that). Someone, in one of the comments either here or on Hanchett’s blog, (can't remember where) made the comment about “W” being the resurrected Bush after his father received a "Mortal wound" by loosing the election to Bill Clinton. That was obviously not in their plans. They did everything in their power to destroy Clinton, spending over $50 million of our money to search out his sex life. This is also very possibly an application. After all it also says in Vs.14 that the wound was received by a sword. The “Sword” speaks of the word or a word and the breath of God. Eph: 6:17: “And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:” Heb: 4:12: “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” 2Thes:2:8: “And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:” Rv: 2:16: “Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.” Most political observers would say that if you were to point to any one thing that caused George H.W. to loose you would have to say it was his own WORDS. “Read my lips, No new taxes” Could this be the sword that struck him to the head? I would like to tell you all a brief story. My mother, who was 93 when she died a few years ago, was seemingly a bit senile in the last several years of her life. She at times would think she saw things, and would have knowledge of things that were strange. I just thought she was a bit crazy. From the very beginning of Bill Clintons Presidency, every time something bad would happen she would say “That’s that George Bush, He's behind this" and I would tell her she was wrong, I would tell her that Bush had lost and he was back in Texas. He had no power anymore and he could not be behind these things. I just thought these were the grumblings of an old lady that had no idea what she was talking about. But she would insist, always saying " Oh no, you watch He's behind it" I would argue with her a bit, and insist that she was wrong. She would continue to insist that she knew, and would say “You watch, He's behind it, He'll come back, He'll come back, and the stock market will crash and we will go to war, you watch!!" Now if your hair isn't standing on end yet, let me say this everything happened just like she said. In Biblical references, many times the father and the son are considered the same person. They are certainly the same spirit. My mother wasn't a particularly godly woman, but I believe that when you are in a state where your sense of reality is altered and somewhat delusional, you can be more open to seeing into the spirit. It may not always be from God, but can in fact be truth. The devils would speak the truth when the Lord came into their presence declaring him as the "Christ". The devil also likes to give people truths to get you to trust him and then slip you a lie. I say this because what my mother had seen did come to pass. Most defiantly a spirit had shown her this, but I am not sure it was the Spirit of God. My point is I believe God may have been telling me something through my mother. Did this mean the G.W. Bush is the father restored to power? I don't know for sure, but my feeling is that he is. The important thing is the "Fruit" we can watch this and know that if not THE antichrist, certainly AN antichrist. The cycles and patterns are always the same. On the other hand both or all applications could also happen. If you remember how the father was so high in popularity you would have thought, how could anyone ever beat him? GW was the same, having gone from the highest approval ratings of any president to the lowest. Much of these discussions I believe are healthy and important speculation in pursuit of the truth. Now we have been beating the drum about Iran. We are going into Iran. People think NO WAY, but what would happen if an atomic bomb went off in this country, or on a military base here or elsewhere in the world? Then they say "See the Iranians did it and this proves they have nuclear capabilities" He would sky rocket back up in the polls and people would take to the streets shouting “Lets go nuke em” I hope I am wrong.
I would also like to comment on the discussion of the Illuminati. It is true that plots and plans have been laid by these secret societies for a very long time and certainly they have achieved much of their plans so far, but I want to remind my readers, that none of these men are smart enough or wise enough to figure out all the courses and possibilities that could happen. It may give us some insight to know what they are up to, but remember this is a spiritual thing. Eph: 6:12: “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
All their plotting and planning is only setting their own trap. They are being used to ultimately accomplish the will of God Ps: 9:16: “The LORD is known by the judgment which he executes: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.” Prov: 12:13: “The wicked is snared by the transgression of his lips: but the just shall come out of trouble.” God’s will shall be done, even by the deceivers. Jesus prayed it, “Thy Will be done” and it will be answered.
I have posted this Psalm to help calm any fear in these days.
Psalm 37:1: Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.2: For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.3: Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.4: Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.5: Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.6: And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgment as the noonday.7: Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.8: Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.9: For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.10: For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.11: But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.12: The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.13: The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming. 14: The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.15: Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken. 16: A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked. 17: For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.18: The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.19: They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.20: But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.21: The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth.22: For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.23: The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.24: Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.25: I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.26: He is ever merciful, and lendeth; and his seed is blessed.27: Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.28: For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.29: The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.30: The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.31: The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.32: The wicked watcheth the righteous, and seeketh to slay him.33: The LORD will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is judged.34: Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.35: I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green bay tree.36: Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he could not be found. 37: Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace.38: But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off. 39: But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength in the time of trouble. 40: And the LORD shall help them and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.
2Pt:1:2: Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord.

109 comments:

Peace said...

Over all I do understand what you are saying. I would recommend watching David Ickle's Matrix video. No one is talking about anything different than what you are here, it is all a matter of smelling the rose and recognizing it, it's not matter what name it has been given. i.e. "spiritual".

In an earlier post you said you did not think the founding fathers of this country understood the meanings of they symbols that would be placed within' the DC layout... I wondered why you have trouble imagining that they did then and do now know. Please watch the video. I don't think it hard to believe at all that all the presidents have been chosen and "we the people" have been living under a veil of unseen imprisonment since the beginning of this country.

About Satan letting a little truth seep in at times... this would involve him knowing what "truth" is in the first place... and that is what the illuminati have been trying to keep away from everyone else. The bottom line is as long as we remain free and unbounded by rules and regulations truth is in abundance and it in deed comes from the same source in which the illuminati are hiding from us... so, yes, God is behind it all. What we need to understand is that there is much they have access to that they have not allowed the rest of the world to see... we are only able to reach those levels of understanding without their giving us the key by knowing that we do not have to wait for them to do so.

"some among me will see the kingdom of God in their lifetime"

Peace

Peace said...

You know that for 2 thousand years Peace reigned, and another 2 thousand the devil was allowed to destroy... if we think of the ancient world that of a 2 thousand year of peace prior to the arrival of the angels who came down and mated with humans producing giants (world leaders) then that they took the symbols that from the former time meant peace and reversed them is a signature calling card of Satan. Let's not forget that they have John the Baptists head on a platter.

Peace

Kevin G said...

I haven't ever posted here, this is my first time, I am a regular at Stephen's Bush Antichrist site. This is a great site Peterz,I agree with everything you have said. I try and not stray too far away from the Bible and what it says, (In interpreting it)
I am only looking for some answers and trying to find the truth in what's really going on. I don't think that any of these people such as David Icke who does speak about The Illuminati and the secret Societies is predicting anything really, but with lots of proof and researching has brought out lots of truth to Our "So Called" Politicians. And I think just about everything he says can be related to in the bible. Im not too sure yet on the alien part, but, For example I think just about anyone can say that the "Mark of the Beast" isn't really going to be an actual number ,and in about three years comes the National ID card and Britain is getting one soon if they haven't already , then it's more than likely the microchip will follow! The Microchip does fit this "Mark of the Beast" that the bible speaks about. Through such people as David Icke and Alex Jones and a few others, I wouldn't have come to learn about Bohemian grove and also all the symbolism, such as on the One Dollar bill and the layouts of the Washington area, also all about the origins of the "Fancy Babylon style buildings" and the oblisques and domes and Eternal Flames and Statue of Liberty and so on. And looking into Or I should say Back to some of the very bad events of the past, such as Pearl Harbor and the Assasination of JFK and RFK, and the death of Princess Dianna and to really think on this . All things will come to pass as it says in the bible but as these incredible times are unfolding, we shouldn't just give up and surrender to this enemy on earth. And I do think that George Bush is an ENEMY,an evil man but he is a Evil puppet that is being controled by Satan, or the Illuminati or some sort of Evil force. This whole adminstration is Evil but I am afraid this Evil has been in Washington and all over and in unison all along and taking over us little by little, and the pace is rapidly moving since 911.

Peter Zarcone said...

Peace and Kevin, I hope you have not misunderstood me. I am not saying that these sites about the Illuminati are not full of important info, I think they are helping to open the eyes of the people. God is using them to help spread some truth. This is one of the swords (words) God is using to slay the beast. The important thing is that we understand that though they may have evil designs, God will use them in spite of themselves to bring about His will. The Lord is 10 steps ahead of the evil doers. I have downloaded the videos and have watched some, so far. A lot there to watch. I would caution however that we seek to verify information and not just buy into everything. Let us weigh everything in light of the scripture. In pursuing truth we don't want to become paranoid as I see a bit of in Alex Jones. We must try to eat the meat and spit out the bones. He sees the evil source behind our government, but I am not sure he would recognize that Satan is the brains behind them, and even more important that God will win, not man winning back the right to do his own will. Kevin, can you share what you have found out about the Statue of Liberty and her flame? I hope we all realize she is an Idol undo the god of man made liberty.

Anonymous said...

Peterz, the relation of daddy and jr. with the mortally wounded head was right on. I was in jr. high when we were in the first gulf war, and I felt like we were seeing Armageddon approach. A lot of people I knew shared that sense of dread, but then of course we got Clinton for eight years of relative peace. Granted, we had Bosnia and the branch Davidian fiasco, the first WTC bombing, and the Oaklahoma city bombing, among other events. But our position in the world was friend to all, deliverer of good will (especially if there was chance of profit), the sleeping giant. The twentieth century was awash with the blood of war. We the people have been like frogs in the kettle, slowly heating up and . We smelled something afoul with Vietnam, we were kept underwraps and in control throughout the so-called Cold war. We feared repeating history in the first Gulf war, but were shown just how quick, deadly and decisive the American Military machine could be. We crushed the Army of Saddam Hussein, and then we pulled out. In retrospect this seems like it could have been a very deliberate ploy to wipe our memory of Vietnam, and instill a false sense of confidence. It established the lie that victory can be quick and definate if you have a strong enough offense. That a nation can be overrun one month, and left to it's own affairs the next. It made us think that war could be surgical, sterile and safe for the warriors.
Maybe the original plan was to return to the middle east after HW was re-elected. It definately fits into events as they have unfolded. I personally do not believe in coincidence. Many people don't think this could be armageddon, because in their minds its a rerun of something we saw on the news 14 years ago. We're blinded by brightly flashing billboards, and deafened by Advertisements and propaganda. Its a setup
Kevin M.

Anonymous said...

Kevin G, thanks for sharing the David Icke link, you've opened up a very interesting discussion. Of course, his views must be taken with a grain of salt, but there is some tasty meat amongst those bones. Nobody on either site has mentioned the reptiles. When he first brought up reptiles faint bells rang in my head. I was wondering, is he the same guy that believes the earth is hollow and habitated? We are venturing towards the twilight zone here. Being in the position that we are, I personally have questioned my grasp of sanity since I stumbled on bushisantichrist.com, or at what I've been taught sanity is. I've run into the same brick wall I'm sure the rest of you have with the general public, who won't even listen the the evidence without the auto-edit going into overdrive. Who really feel that they are in the right, or at least not exactly wrong. Their foundation is rootless. their perception is a reinforcing sedative, like a paralizing spider's venom, or heroin whichever you choose.

Back to the reptiles. I was following along alright, and this guy drops the reptile bomb. We have a theory based on the movies The Matrix, They Live, Monsters Inc., and of course Super Mario Brothers: The Movie!
The whole idea sounds preposterous to me, the ravings of a crackpot. But it also strikes some deep new chord within the hollows of my gut. It calls to an awakened part of me I can't properly express. And considering I've recently joined the ranks of the so-called crackpots, I decided to run it by the scriptures.
Not too long ago Stephen Hanchett and Peterz each dissected the beginning of Genisis, so I will only acknowledge that the first time we meet the devil it is in the form of a reptile, or serpent. More interesting is Genesis 6:1-4,
"When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose...The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown."

That is all, just a by-the-way. And we also have the account in Revelation 12 regarding the red dragon and the woman clothed with the sun. Although supposedly mythical a dragon would be classified as a reptile if it had to be, right?
Can it be "coincidence" I think not. When Jesus was in the Desert, Satan showed him the kingdoms of the earth and pridefully offered them to Christ in exchange for his worship. Money is the root of all evil, it turns us into poker chips in a high stakes game of Satan's (if we choose to serve it, such a simple but powerful choice we have). The reason we're burning up this planet like an effigy is that Satan knows what corner he's in, and he has no reason not to go all in, lay it all on the line, use every dirty trick in the book and drag as many of us down with him as he can. David Icke says regarding Christ, "there's not really any evidence that he ever existed". This is a saddening example of a pond of truth being poisened by a cup of lies. Peterz is right, though. God is using David Icke as a sword of the spirit of truth, despite the letter of his beliefs.
Satan uses the poison-the-pond-with-a-pinch-of-lies method frequently, and has throughout history. Which would lead me to conclude that a majority of what David Icke is saying actually is true. I would very much like to hear if anyone can paint him as a true nutjob, or if anyone comes up with more evidence to support his stance.
It's a difficult task to discern truth from fabrication, but we must refuse to run on autopilot. we can not automatically disbelieve anything.
bless you all,
Kevin M

Kevin G said...

Peterz, I am just new to the studies of David Icke and the Illuminati but the Statue of Liberty was made in France and given to us by the Freemasons there, which is a Secret Society part of the Illuminati. The Flaming torch (Eternal Flame)is the illuminati's sign for " The Illuminated ones" and also they (The Illuminati) uses symbolism and sometimes will just take a positive symbol and reverse it or distort it and it becomes the negative. The actual Positive Statue of Liberty that really did represent FREEDOM for all is still over there in France, I think thats what was said , But what we have in New York which has been reversed , so the meaning really is "We are standing over You and We are in Control" The Eternal Flame is also seen on John Kennedy's Grave, also its on Princess Dianna's and it is also seen at the OLYMPICS as well, which really is tied in with the Illuminati. Also, I think its Amoco Gas corporation has the Flame in Their Logo. You can see the All Seeing Eye on CBS and Columbia Pictures has the Lady standing holding the torch ,(Almost like the Statue of Liberty) so the Illuminati is not only in the Government but The Movie and Television industry and all around us, if we learn a little about their logos and symbolism then we can spot them. I agree with Kevin M and everyone else who has mentioned that we do need to investigate this stuff on our own a bit and NOT just take the words of David Icke, or Alex Jones or whoever. And I really as I have said, I am not completely buying the Reptile Alien Lizard and Shapeshifting part. Actually I think that may be irrelevant and can be put aside, The Fact is I think and Its still another thing to actually look into and do my own thinking, but I think what David is saying about How the Presidents have had a Family Genioligy ,(Bloodline) to Royality going a long ways back with these People with their Satanic beleifs and membership to these secret societies and so forth, that so many are already Selected into Office and NOT ELECTED. I don't agree with everything this guy is saying, but I think he has really studied the Illuminati and The Bush Family and a lot of the other presidents and their ties to these secret societies and Illuminati. And he is using lots of actual documented facts throughout history to back up what he is saying. Instead of actually thinking of a bloodline of Reptilian, Aliens, or lizards wanting to Rule the planet, then I think of them as a bloodline of Evil (Satanic) people wanting to rule the planet. Right now George W Bush is the main face we see but he is just their Puppet. The president is not and has never been actually at the very top.
As it has been pointed out when listening to any man's lectures or explanations, beleifs, then we Shouldn't just Leap into it and accept it as complete truth. However I think it's worth considering and checking it out, and doing a little research on Our own. God Bless Everyone here.

Anonymous said...

PeterZ it is as though you were reading my thoughts in regards to Bush. Katrina will not get the better of him! Nothing, short of the coming of Christ, will get the better of him. He will once again be on top via a disaster, probably nuclear like you mentioned. The world will then blindly follow him into their own demise. The majority of this country does not believe Bush to be evil. They do not think any one as evil as he is really exist. They are deceived. Before Bush lets his ratings go too low or before the next election there will most asuridly be a devistation in this country like we have never seen before. The devil will not give up his reigns. If anyone thinks Bush is going to just walk out of office once his four years is up, they are being deceived and do not really know the beast for what he is. He will never relinquish his power, no matter how many millions of lives he must destroy. And, he will destroy them.

Peace said...

Peter, while I have also thought of what you said in that "God is ten steps ahead of them" I do not see anything wrong with wanting to take back our free will. In fact, and I am sure you would agree, because we are God's no one will ever truly have taken it away. Alex Jones can come off a bit paranoid yes, but what is going on in this world is scary, especially because we do not want to see anyone's children a victim, least of all "our own". No matter how much faith I have or will ever, it will never comfort me enough to just stand by and allow them to take them. God does not and will not stand for this why would his children?

I do see how protest is probably a losing battle, and if not done carefully will lead to even further putting one's self and family in danger... this is the imprisonment. I think what Icke wants to happen is for everyone to mass protest as they did during the VN war, but what have the government been doing since? Figuring out ways to control us to keep us shut up. He talks about things like that being done via vaccines so forth.

TODAY, this very morning Bush was talking about how they are working on how to vaccinate everyone fast enough to prevent a pandemic which may come in the form or bird flu etc... He has reiterated the fear of biological concerns in people's minds and is setting them up for the real threat, "them". My question to anyone who wants to attempt to answer it is... WHAT THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO DO? If you know they are going to put something in everyone's bodies to further their agenda? What do those of us who know the real deal going to do? It is a bit paranoing, Peter. Even for one with much faith. Alex Jones and David Icke may very well be Christians, but they are human as well and want to stop the madness... it is not easy to say to ones self "they are going to put something in my child's body that is going to alter their ability to remain one of God's children, to turn them into zombies programmable to suit their needs." Essentially they are going to take our children from us... in the bible it says in the last days it will be child against parent, brother against brother, so forth....... Immunizations causing autism and A.D.D are merely a tiny glimpse of what I am talking about... it's what we do not see that is the real threat. What have you or anyone to say? Please share any ideas. From myself I know that Jesus said he will protect those that are his. I'm not remembering at the moment where I read it, but this is where you come in Pete, and I could really use a refresher course about now, thanks. :)

Peace

Peace said...

Did I say "least of all" meant "most of all" our own children. If that comes off a bit selfish as we are to love everyone as our own, I want make clear that, that is why I have been going so crazy over all of this, I do feel what other parents are going through but now it's hitting home, the sense of need to protest is naturally growing stronger.

Peace

Anonymous said...

Peter and Peace,
I feel an overwhelming urge to make a dash to Canada before w. closes the borders in 2006. It is for the protection of my children, not for me. I have prayed (and cried) and have come to peace with whatever happens to any of us (my family), God is going to show me what to do; we have to trust Him completely through this also. Some of us are going to have to die, that's also written, but it is also written that no harm will come to those of us that are His.
It is happening so much faster than I ever even imagined and still people follow and revere Bush. Everything he does (even nominating a non-judge to our Supreme Court) is acceptable to his sheeple because they "trust" him. My, our Lord must be about fed up with us. I'm counting on it.....
God will be there, He always is.
Susanne

Kevin G said...

I for one wish that all of this information could get out to the people such as David Icke's information and 911 in Plane Site, in which the website has been shut down! ??? I hope they don't take Down David's site or this site or Stephen's anytime soon! I have a friend who is thinking about going to Australia soon, I beleive that eventually it isn't going to matter what country you are in, but Leaving the United States and going someplace else would buy one a little more time I think. I too just heard ol Shrub today talk about this Avian Bird Flu, talking about getting out some sort of vaccine! I can tell you that I WON'T be taking it!

Peter Zarcone said...

Peace be to the brethren, and love with faith, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.Eph:6:23:---
Phil:4:7: And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
Peace--- I have never said to not get involved, I was personally at the "Peace March" last week end in DC I believe there were about 300,000 people there. From the looks of the signs they carried it looks like more than you realize are getting the picture. I know these are very heavy and difficult times, but the birth pangs have begun, and there is no going back. We are to be involved in spreading the truth, for it is the truth that shall defeat the evil. Speaking and spreading the truth is more that quoting scripture, but it is all these things we have all jointly been uncovering. More and more are learning, and their lies will be exposed; but I just want to encourage all not to get in despair because we have been caught up with the problem. Keep your attention on the solution. KNOW!!! that Jesus is in control. I understand that having children is frightening in this day, Jesus said it would Mt:24:19, but we have no choice but to either fall in hatred and fear, or allow Gods peace to reign in our hearts. As the darkness gets darker, the Light will get brighter. God sees our children, and they do not belong to us anyway, they are His.
What many of you are feeling are growing pains. You will grow in faith and POWER. As I continue teaching, you will see how God will use the true church which is His body to wield the Sword of the Spirit that shall consume the evil. Learn and Teach and learn, spread the word. God has made you all ministers of His word.
I have posted Psalm 37 which seems to speak directly to these concerns. I have tried to remain as anonymous as I could, but I think I need to be more available to this flock that has started and seems to be growing. If any of you want to contact me personally I am going to post my email. I had been afraid to do it but I guess I need to practice what I preach. PursuingTruth@nc.rr.com
Love and Peace through Jesus Christ Our Lord

Peter Zarcone said...

I have just finished watching most of the David Icke presentation. I would have to say David Icke is a complete Heretic with what seems to be a sizable cult following. What he thinks are Martians are most likely the Nephilim, The combo of fallen angles and "daughters of men". Yes they are most probably the blood line that have ruled and enslaved
mankind. Not extraterrestrial but extradimentional. This is why I have said that a lot of these Illuminati, Free Masons, may not fully realize what they are doing, as they are following the dictates of the demons that have been behind them. What they may think are innocent games with "Skull and Bones" are selling their souls to the devil. The same pantheon of Demon gods have kept coming back and have twisted the truth through the ages. The fact that they have mimicked the stories of the Virgin birth by Nimrod is just Satan trying to discredit the true event. The devils knew and know a lot about Gods plan, but not all, and they don't believe it. This is all part of that "Great Whore Babylon" of false religion. Icke makes quite a number of erroneous claims that are completely unsubstantiated. To say that there is no evidence that Jesus ever existed is ridicules. Even if you threw out the Bible, which was not one book, but several writers, We still have the account of His life by Josephus the Jewish historian. He just makes declarations and we are supposed to believe and trust him? The whole Reptile/man thing is from the idea that Satan appeared as a serpent and is referred to as a dragon. KevinM mentioned that Christ called the Pharisees a "brood of vipers". He is correct about a number of things though. Constantine was responsible for setting the Birth day on Dec 25, which was a pagan holiday. I have discussed this before. Jesus was probably born on the Feast of Tabernacles, which is coming up in the middle of this month. It could be significant. He is also correct in that most all of the organized religious world is apostate and deceived so he plays on the emptiness most feel to further deceive. Icke obviously doesn't understand who God is. All things were made by Him and without Him nothing that exists would be. ( you may also like to review my post "The Heavens are Telling the Glory of God" from April 2)
May the Spirit of Truth guide you into All Truth

Anonymous said...

To Kevin G,
I suppose we need to prepare ourselves for the possibility that we may not have this outlet (ministry of like minds) sometime. Strange that you should mention it because just starting last week, I cannot access these 2 sites (PeterZ and Stephen's) unless I use http:// address. I thought this was odd but didn't care or think too much about it as long as I could get in.

Then I heard on Amy Goodman's show, Democracy Now!, that there are five (five?) new bills in the Congress/Senate for monitoring what goes in and what goes out of every home in America. Didn't catch any names for the bills, but the reporter said the real story about it all is the fact that there is no story about it. Not even open for any negotiation, dissent or opinion from anyone.

Maybe this could be another move from Jesus for PeterZ to offer his email address.......

I hope not because these sites have been a source of comfort, inspiration and knowledge to me second only to my Bible and my relationship with Jesus. I mean that with all sincerity from my heart. Kinda like that imprisonment feeling that was discussed. Gonna get worse, like PeterZ said, focus on the good stuff (God) and trust Him and that's all we can do or need to do.
Just think, we'll know each other in Heaven......
Let God's peace be our salvation for now.
Love,
Susanne

Young Brother said...

I have created a blog. It is a tiny baby now. Hopefully a shutdown won't happen soon. anyone interested can visit republicanapocalypse.blogspot.com
Avoid the vaccines. Keep your fourheads and your right hands to yourselves. The steamroller is set to flatten us all if we do nothing. We need to maintain our link, our network, and work to expand it. We need to do whatever we can to get the word out. We have very important work ahead of us, but we have been prepared to be ready to face this challenge.

Young Brother said...

by the way this is M, not G.

Anonymous said...

Kevin M,
Made a note of your blog; thank you. The more Christians the better!

I love your words of wisdom; we have been prepared to face this challenge. I feel so humbled and yet exhilarated if this is what is happening and I am indeed not just crazy (or negative).

What do you think of w. using the military to fight the bird flu? How does this compute in any way? We haven't even had a case in the US, have we?

I can just hear people now, "Oh, I trust Pres. Bush to keep us safe and if this is what he says to do, we ought to do it." Military for vaccines? Raises big questions in my heart.

Have you heard that there was a deadly bacterium found by the sensors in Washington when the anti-war rally was taking place, but the CDC was not notified for 72 hours. An article in the Washington Post ran it.

Why can people not see? I want them to all see so they possibly can be saved.

See you at your website (I hope. I do not have a URL).
God Bless,
Susanne

Peter Zarcone said...

As I have said in my post "Mark of the Beast" I do not think we need to be concerned with a literal mark in the forehead or hand. I also don't want us to get too paranoid, looking for boggy men in every shadow. Trust 1Jn:4:4: "Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."
I have started a screen name on AOL or AIM "PursuingTruth" so if anyone wants to chat we could start a chat group. If you find me on line, please feel free to instant message me.

Anonymous said...

PeterZ,
Your wisdom is God-given. There's no doubt in my mind.

I needed to read that verse with my eyes to understand my heart and from you - there it is.

What strength we have in Him. I am feeling it today. Been a little questionable lately (fear level was rising); but back to my senses again. Jesus is our promise, our rock, our salvation, our everything and NOTHING else really matters more than that no matter what it is. As in the words of our fake, immature, deluded, demonic ruler - "bring it on".

Jesus rules, forever and ever.
Susanne

Peace said...

You are a sweetie, Susanne. :)

I want to thank you as well Peter, I too am feeling very much better. If I can every be of help to you in any way as well, please feel free to ask.

Ran across something else to add to this if I may?

Rev.
To the Church in Smyrna

2:8 “To the angel of the church in Smyrna write the following:

“This is the solemn pronouncement of the one who is the first and the last, the one who was dead, but came to life: 2:9 ‘I know the distress you are suffering and your poverty (but you are rich). I also know the slander against you by those who call themselves Jews and really are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 2:10 Do not be afraid of the things you are about to suffer. The devil is about to have some of you thrown into prison so you may be tested, and you will experience suffering for ten days. Remain faithful even to the point of death, and I will give you the crown that is life itself. 2:11 The one who has an ear had better hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who conquers will in no way be harmed by the second death.’

To the Church in Pergamum

2:12 “To the angel of the church in Pergamum write the following:

“This is the solemn pronouncement of the one who has the sharp double-edged sword: 2:13 ‘I know where you live—where Satan’s throne is. Yet you continue to cling to my name and you have not denied your faith in me, even in the days of Antipas, my faithful witness, who was killed in your city where Satan lives. 2:14 But I have a few things against you: You have some people there who follow the teaching of Balaam, who instructed Balak to put a stumbling block before the people of Israel so they would eat food sacrificed to idols and commit sexual immorality. 2:15 In the same way, there are also some among you who follow the teaching of the Nicolaitans. 2:16 Therefore, repent! If not, I will come against you quickly and make war against those people with the sword of my mouth. 2:17 The one who has an ear had better hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who conquers, I will give him some of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, and on that stone will be written a new name that no one can understand except the one who receives it.’

What the latter is saying is that some even though they have faith are falling into the teachings of "Balaam and Balack" this could be for example like someone who believes in Christianity but also believes in in practicing too liberal a lifestyle thinking they will be forgiven anyway, taking God's forgiving nature and that of his children for granted? It is completely crazy to not know that Jesus and God are the power behind all power and no one should ever "sacrifice" anything thinking it will bring them closer to God or Jesus, the one and only truth, perfection of peace and mercy... including sacrificing their integrity. "the one who speaks with a Double edged sword" could be a person who speaks effectively to both sides of the track. Now this could possibly be a diplomat with his pendulum stuck in the middle for all we know, which some may even equate to someone like, Bill Clinton or others who seemingly have a heart but are hanging out with and going through ceremonies with complete creepazoids? I have no idea for sure if this is an example a person applicable to the solemn pronouncement to the church of Pergamum? Still whoever it is, is being addressed by Jesus in a tone of admonishment, it is a warning but he has not yet condemned them, they still have time to repent. In other words to recognize and claim "Jesus as Lord".

Peace

Young Brother said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Young Brother said...

susanne. I really don't know what the specifics are regarding the avian flu. I do know that as time progresses we will be surrounded by sickness, death, evil in all forms and a sadness the world has never seen. It's a good thing this world is temporary, because the worst thing they could do is send you to your loving maker sooner than originally preferred.
We are all of us on a similar level, as far as information we have available. The main reason I chose to start a blog is to deal with my tendency to rant. What spiritual gifts are you finding developing in your life? We are all iron sharpening each other.

Peter Zarcone said...

Peace... Please realize there is a difference between judging what a man may say or teach and condemning the man.
When the Bible tells us not to "Judge" It does not mean you can't discern truth; or judge truth from error in the light of scripture. We must. We do these things and make judgments all the time, or we would never be able to know anything. Eph:4:14: "That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;15: But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:" Jn:7:24: "Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment." You could never place one stone upon another without some form of judgment. The kind of "Judgment" we are not to do is "Condemn"a person but we do judge spirits. None of us know how someone will finally end up. When someone begins to lead people down a path, it is very difficult for them to change. They tend to have too much at stake and too much vested in what they are teaching. The Pride of life. Jn:12:48: He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
I have no problem with the people of God gleaning truth from all kinds of places, but the problem is that unless they are rooted and grounded in the truth, you can be deceived. Now I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Roman Catholic Church has suppressed some writings, (not scripture) but I don't really care. I know and trust that God will guide me by the Spirit of Truth into all truth. He will lead me into all that I need to know when I need to know it. The Roman Catholic Church is not the only source we have had for scripture and other writings. We haven't even scratched the surface of the scripture we know is Gods word. When we worry about missing something, what we are doing is relying on our ability to save our selves. The whole purpose God sent His Son into the world was because He knew we could never reach Him, so He reached us.Heb:7:25: "Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him (Jesus), seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them."
Peace you have no need to defend David Icke, I am not saying that he would never come to God or that some of what he has thought isn't truth or helpful and even useful; but I did say he is a heretic. and that does stand. Titus 3:10. Unless I was listening to a different tape then everyone else, He said that he doubted that Jesus even existed. How can you believe in someone you doubt exists?
1Jn:4:2: Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Again the main problem with all this is, although we want to know about the enemy, we don't want to be caught up with him and allow his fear to take us. He has only led down a road of despair, with no solution.

Peace said...

Very good to know that you are aware of these things, Peter. If you knew that I too am aware of them you would know that my questions are to further elevate the truth of Jesus Christ.

I have mercy on Icke because I believe him to be a good person, otherwise he would have no headway with me... because of my foundation in truth I know that he and those of his followers may only be a smidgen away from being gathered. Sometimes people work from the outside in as well as from the inside out. An example: When I read the words of Jesus Christ from as far back as I can remember, it was not as if I were being told something I did not already know. It is very important to always remain in touch with our spiritual selves because the confirmation is from God who is talking to our spirit through the Holy Spirit. My mother was a fearless defender of the human spirit very careful not to tread on God's holy ground, which is how I was able to spiritually recognize early on... Now in my life I find myself recognizing more and more the lead up to Christ, the prophecies of Moses and others are beginning to be revealed to me... these things can come from the weirdest places ya know? Like Icke for example, I see where even he might be only a tad off from understanding that which I have known all my life... other than that he is a vessel for truth in other ways, helping me... Which is funny because let's just entertain the idea that maybe just maybe he is working for the other side (at the moment) wouldn't it bewilder him to know that he has increased my faith and the faith of many others. Or would it bewilder him at all? Perhaps his aim is not to deceive but to call out to the lost sheep, who have been turned off God by those who are pretending to be of God but whose fruits are wrenched. Many of the youth at present are very aware of the crimes against all logic that are taking place, they find a connection with their spirituality through David Icke and the like... so... once they are gathered it will only be a matter of time before they realize who Jesus is... if they do not already, such as the case of myself. Just as with any religion that has followers and you know that the head of that doctrine are vipers in disguise... Jesus has and will always have the power to overwrite any one of these so called "leaders". Those that have jumped from church to Icke are well on their way to spiritual freedom. Enlightenment is only moments away.

Personally, I would love to sit and have a conversation with Icke as I believe if he has not already realized some things I could help it along. Probably not going to happen still I will not fret as I know that God is in control.

Peace

Peace said...

Clues to David's being a Christian are his understanding of the reverse that is taking place in our times.... the whole "Orwellian" thing...

Remember when I said that Christians were going to have to figure out a way to meet in secret soon because the powers that be are going to really begin to enforce the imprisonment? Some have already been doing this... To elude the deceiver is almost a "fight fire with fire" thing but the ones who know what is going on can understand the lingo of the other. Icke and his followers may be speaking in another tongue that you do not understand, but that does not mean they are any less recognized by God. Icke speaks much of our artistic side of the brain and how it is being suppressed, underhandedly, the reason is because it will allow people to see things more clearly.

"Speaking in tongues" is a gift of those who can see these things, some of Christ children do not speak in tongues but were told to be on the lookout for those who do as they are helpful in growing into adulthood spiritually. "Spiritually"... so the bible is not talking of physically speaking in different languages, it is this type of recognition that I am talking to you about. The one who can speak in tongues can as well understand the language of the angels... This is something I am currently becoming aware I have always done as well.

Peace

Tronicus said...

STATUE of LIBERTY

Peter,
somewhere above you asked for info on the SoL. Here is a link I found recently. It is the most in-depth analysis I have ever came across.
I don't think anyone who doesn't already know about the esoteric doctines of the Masons, and their penchant for dangling arcane and occult symbolism before the unsuspecting, would realize the import of what is discussed in this analysis.
You will see here an amazing demonstration of how God knew the details of our time, even from long ago.

http://aoreport.com/200508_Ftre_idolsofusa-illustrated.htm

Tronicus said...

PS:
Peter, thank you for posting the passage from Psalms. That is sure a great passage for our times. It gave me both peace and encouragement. I think I will make it a habit to review or even memorize.

Young Brother said...

tronicus, interesting name. what is it's origin. Thanks for the link, and welcome to our group!

Peace said...

"Now I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Roman Catholic Church has suppressed some writings, (not scripture) but I don't really care. I know and trust that God will guide me by the Spirit of Truth into all truth. He will lead me into all that I need to know when I need to know it. The Roman Catholic Church is not the only source we have had for scripture and other writings."

I am a little confused by this statement, in one way I see you saying not to look for truth God will guide you to it... in the other, you yourself have searched for the other scriptures. Clearly you must mean that they are out there and can be found regardless of the Roman Catholics hiding what they can of them. Given that I will as if you have read a book by Elizabeth Claire Prophet, called, "Fallen Angels and the Origins of Evil"? If not, it may very well be one you might take a look at? I myself have only read the excerpts, but am considering the purchase.

Link to Amazon

Peace

Peace said...

Okay, really weird can't get to that link for nothing... not even typing her name into the homepage of Amazon, it was there before... sure the book can be found somewhere........ I've since searched on Elizabeth the person, quite into all the mystical thing, which seems to be where David Icke appears to be... not that there is not truth in what they are talking about, but sadly that is not the true path, hope they realize they've been fooling themselves thinking that the Nephilim are all knowing, if that is what they are doing can't say for sure that Icke and she are from the same circle of thought, but anyway... There is a big difference between believing in something and using it to learn about those who do believe in it. Which I'm sure is why we were warned not to practice those types of things. So close they are, but if there is still an open mind to be had of those who believe they know more hopefully they will come out of it, they are not our enemy they have been hypnotized by Satan's bragging. You are right though Peter, if this is the case, they simply must wake-up and recognize, Jesus.

Really odd that link went down, isn't it?

Peace

Peace said...

Still feeling the urge to add that I don't know that they have not realized these things yet, because there are good angels too.

The thing that would worry me is if they believe as the Satan worshiping government that runs this country do and that would be that at the end of the 28,000 year cycle that is when their Christ will come. That part is really important because, we know that "Jesus will thwart the wisdom of the wise" he will come at an hour they are not expecting. In otherwords God is going to really throw those who believe in Satan's power for a serioius loop... not to mention Satan himself will be made aware of his doormat status.

Peace

Peace said...

not 28 - "26,000", sheesh, I'm sorry guys, I have to write things as I think them or I will lose the thought, hope you understand?

Peace

Peter Zarcone said...

Thank you Tronicus for the link about the Statue of Liberty, it answered a few questions for me. I had know that she was an Idol, just didn't know all the back ground.
Peace... I hope we are not getting off on the wrong track, I didn't say that we should not search ACTIVELY for truth. We should; we should be looking and listening. I just meant that I am not worried about anything anyone would try to hold back from me, because I trust that God is able to get the truth to me one way or another. If they were to take my Bible away, I believe He would send his angels to instruct me. I am trying to move us away from this spirit of fear and suspicion to the spirit of trust and faith. I think one should search anywhere you feel led to search, but I believe all must be weighed in the light of the Scripture. I believe that what we have come to know as the Bible is the infallible Word of God. Is it possible that there are other writings that are God inspired? Yes very possibly, but only in that they do not contradict what we know to be the historically accepted scripture. The New Testament scripture had been widely accepted and agreed upon by the second century, approximately 150 years before Constantine presided over the Nicene Council. I have gained a great deal of insight into the devils workings through the ages by listening to David Icke's presentations. There is no question he has a lot of insight as to the problem. He certainly sees the devil, but I just don't think he knows who he is seeing. What he thinks are creatures from another planet are in fact most likely beings from another dimension, the spiritual dimension. I think we are all uncovering a great deal with all this. My problem with him is that he seems to have equated the oppression of organized religion and the ruling powers with true Biblical Christianity. I get the idea that he thinks that these reptile people started Christianity. You may be hoping he is not, and I would love to believe you are right, but I just don't think so. Jesus said Jn:8:24: "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he (the Lord , the Savior, the Christ), ye shall die in your sins." I hope as I know you do that he sees the Truth, because I think at this point he is missing a Huge piece to his puzzle. I believe God has led us to all of this because it has increased my understanding of the spirit behind Babylon. I have been working on this subject for a long time, and want to write on the subject but it seems God had more to show me. I feel though that my next post should be on who Jesus is.

Peace said...

I think maybe what Icke might be saying ultimately is that we can thwart them... now this is a perplexing thought is it not, because, Jesus dwells within us. So, Peter, we just may never know, but, yes, much to be learned from Icke to keep us on our toes. I look very forward to your description of Christ, pretty sure I'm hip to the inspiration and will let you know I can dig it. :)

Love,
Peace

Kevin G said...

I just came across this article. Pretty scarry.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/03/281821.shtml

Peace said...

another 18,000 die in an earthquake, 1,200 in a landslide and 617 in a tropical storm. I just don't know how much more before people begin to clue in?

Peace

Young Brother said...

peace. you are such a diligent witness
;)

Young Brother said...

I checked out what you said peace, it's truely chilling. Every time something like that happens, I feel less crazy. I wish we were crazy. This has been an onslaught of tragedy for a while now. It wears down the soul sometimes to witness these events. that's why we must constantly be in the word to find our comfort and explaination. Not to say I don't think things won't get rough, they've been rough for awhile. But I am confidant that God is bigger than any problem this species or planet can create. Time will tell, crazy or not, but knowing that and relying on God in that way keeps me sane. I don't care if it seems blind to others, it's sufficient for me.
Anyway, I have a new post on my blog. Anyone interested is more than welcome to click on the blue kevin.
I just want you to know Peace, that I value your insights and links, and constant array of topics. It's great fun trying to keep up.

remember, "A lizard can be caught in the hand, but they can be found even in the palaces of kings."

Peace said...

Looking forward to reading it, Kevin. :)

The bible says there will be all kinds of things going on but it does not say that God was responsible for them. There is a very, very important thing from the old testament to remember to apply when doubting myself and others who think this astronomical amount of death due to earthquake and flood here and that is that God promised to never again flood the earth. This I think was a clue in that he is not the cause of our current seemingly "natural" disasters. New testament says that there would be earthquakes and floods but not to think that it is the return... this to me is another clue in that these things are not from God's hand.

Peace

Peace said...

Do not be fooled by Satan, who is performing specticals that will amaze. People are thinking this is God doing these things, I am telling you, it is not... everytime someone asks "why is God doing this", they are stroking Satan's ego.

Peace

Peace said...

Our current state...

Rev

6:7 Then when the Lamb opened the fourth seal I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come!” 6:8 So I looked and here came a pale green horse! The name of the one who rode it was Death, and Hades followed right behind. They were given authority over a fourth of the earth, to kill its population with the sword, famine, and disease, and by the wild animals of the earth.

Peace

Young Brother said...

When God said he wouldn't use a flood to wipe out humanity, he was referring to the total destruction of the species, not the death of any. It may sound harsh, but God has wiped us out once before, he has a history of what you might call a temper, because we are incredibly good at being disobediant.
In recent readings I've actually come across a few passages in Habbukuk and Jeramiah which refers to God destroying Babylon and using Babylon to destroy certain people.
Our opinions make us unique and allow us to establish a network of questioning and problem solving that covers many sides of any given issue, however when any opinion conflicts with scripture it must be called in to question. If you'd like to further your argument you are more than welcome. Every exchange is an opportunity for learning.

Peace said...

I do not disagree with you I do believe that God in deed has an anger, I just do not think these current things are an act of, God. God is not angry with the innocent and poor of our planet. The people who are dying in these disasters are some of the sweetest, poorest, most innocent of the world. Far less deserving of God's wrath than are those who are not being targeted at present.

Jesus saying that in the last days there would be floods and earthquakes but not to mistake these things as the return of the Son of Man is one way to know that they are not caused by the Son of Man. Those responsible are not uneducated or dumb, they know their murders can be excused as acts of God, in fact, they are counting on it... In my above quote from Rev. it says that death was released and Hades will soon follow, "Hades" will be the 26,000 year mark. "2012" is the year Hades will come. This is all about the Satan's imitating God.

Peace

Peace said...

We know that those who are currently in control of this world are following the lead of the sun worshipers of old. If we were to think of the Sun as the imitation of The Son, perhaps the coming cycle they are so reliant on following their Gregorian calendar which is centered around the "Sun"... will be recognized by the devastation this planet is going to undergo as a result of Global Warming. This is why those who are continuing batter this planet with fossil fuel emissions and other poisonous gasses do not care that they are killing the planet... to them they are helping pave the way for the one they are worshiping. "Sunday" is a day when a lot of churches amass, but when you know that the Catholic Church are responsible for coming up with that day and that they too have the obelisk and the dome in their center square is this because they are worshiping the Sun and not The Son?

Could "Hades" = "Global Warming" peak?

Peace

Living Positive said...

A couple of simple comments:

1. The comparisons of the story of Christ: Virgin Birth, Incarnate God, Resurrection, etc. are seen in earlier cultures.

The important thing to remember when dealing with "Principalities", etc. is that they exists outside linear time. They do not necessarily need to know God's plan, they can see events past present and future and plan accordingly.

What will be their downfall is their pride and arrogance; they believe that they can rul over creation, that they are autonomous and beyond God's plan. They are not. God has aalowed evil to exist for a set time on Earth and then He will destroy evil.

2. Some things are not for us to know. This is the basis of faith. That we trust that God knows what is going on and we trust that He will be just.

I think what some, if not all, of us are called to do is to bring His flock to Him.

3. I would like to say that God may very well have had reasons for the recent disasters. For one, it exposed many things. It exposed the nature of our culture today - esp. here in the States. The long publicly unspoken crime against the least was forced out into the light of day. It also exposed those who truly practice what they preach - feeding, clothing, and sheltering Christ. When I am faced with "Why, God?" I know that it is time to sit quietly and listen for the Spirit, because the voice that shouted "Why, God?" needed an answer that I can't give it.

I would like to have a discussion on something, though; In the psalm

Psalm 37:1: Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.........

It basically goes on to say that one should know peace and not be jealous, or commit evil because of the unrighteous - if I read it correctly.

Here is my problem, and I hope you guys can see where I am coming from: What I believe is at issue for me is what David Icke pointed out - I at times, more often than not, if I am honest, am not really the far from being like those I hate. Opposing sides are not really all that different most of the time.

Let's go for the obvious first: I Hate. Jesus told us to love even those seeking to do us harm (especially) What does it mean to love them? I know we don't have to agree with them. How do I love unconditionally someone I so virulently disagree with?

Next, I quite often wish harm to those who wish me harm. Human, I know, but aren't we called to rise above that? And I don't mean that in a self-righteous, holier-than-thou way. I mean, can I come to trust that God will be just and keep His Word? And if so, doesn't that mean that I will also be judged for wishing harm?

I understand that we are told to call for justice, and I understand that speaking out is how we do that. But I honestly often come back to selfish motives. I am afraid for my friends and family, and to be brutal, myself.

I am not in a place right now where I can engage with those I see as being unjust without getting RABIDLY angry - and I know that some of my friends will laugh out loud at this one, because at times it can be comical to watch; I mean with all the yelling at the TV I do, and such. But it is unbecoming and sad and I don't want to be that person anymore.

I beleive that our fear and insecurities are traits that we were either born with or trained to have because we don't fully appreciate that what we have we are only borrowing for a time. Our car, home, food, money, even our lives are all gifts to us from the Almighty. Then we are told the lie that we earned these things, that we have the right to "Have".

I don't think we have a "right" to anything. I also believe that there are gifts from God that no one has the right to take from me.

Even our free will is a GIFT from God. The only way that we lose that gift is if we give it away.

So I believe, and this is one additional thing I would like feedback on, that fear ultimately, is the fear of losing something that was never really ours in the first place. I would like to think that I could come to trust God implicitly, and lose most of my fear.(anger being an extension of fear)

Peace said...

You are a very sweet and kind soul LP. :)

I can relate very much to the things you have said and agree whole heartedly with your statements about trying not to hate even those who wish us harm. I have not and will never wish death upon anyone as I have always believed as you have stated in that "we will be judged by the same measure in which we judge" there are so many levels to the Lord's words. They are eternal and will never fail us from now until the end of time. In fact with God there is no such thing as "time"... a clock is a measurement of age, God is ageless, there is no beginning and no end of the perfect circle. And you are so right how these events have woke up more people to the truth. They are being snared in there own traps.

In the beginning God said, "Let there be light" he had created the Sun on that day, it is important to remember that Lucifer was also God's first creation. Even though the Sun has great power it is nothing compared to God whom created it and everything else. "Doormat status".

Soon hurricanes will be named after the Greek alphabet, beginning with, "Alpha". More imitating.

Rev.

6:9 Now when the Lamb opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been violently killed because of the word of God and because of the testimony they had given. 6:10 They cried out with a loud voice, “How long, Sovereign Master, holy and true, before you judge those who live on the earth and avenge our blood?” 6:11 Each of them was given a long white robe and they were told to rest for a little longer, until the full number was reached of both their fellow servants and their brothers who were going to be killed just as they had been.

We are in for some turbulent times, but we must remain faithful to the end.

Peace

Young Brother said...

Great post Living Positive! you really cut through the bulldung on that one. It's still settling. By the way, your blogs are very interesting

Living Positive said...

Thanks for the kind words.

I had forgotten to thank Peterz for providing the space for us to have this discussion.

I am grateful to the Lord for His kindness in bringing people like him into our world.

LP

Living Positive said...

To set your mind at ease:

The Power Hour production web site is:

www.thepowerhour.com

Although I too had difficulties over the weekend, I just talked to them and their site is up.

LP

Peace said...

The link to the book by Elizabeth Claire Prophet is now working... in only the excerpts of the book there are intriguing statements. In this book she refers to the book of "Enoch". We know that the book of Enoch exists for one because in Jude's address he refers to Enoch, the reason is because of the relevance that book has to the subject he is taking on in his important single chapter in the New Testament.

He talks about the angels and Sodom and Gomorra as well.

Anyway, read the excerpt from her book, regardless of what I do not know of her beliefs I do know what she is talking about in her book, I think it will make sense to others as well... particularly after seeing Icke's take and knowing he is referring to the Nephilim.

Fallen Angels and the Origins of Evil

Peace

Young Brother said...
This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.
Peace said...

Hi, I look forward to the read, Kev.

I just wanted to stop in and say that in the end of the bible it says not to add to or take away, it must be of extreme value to know that which has been removed. It is said that the Catholic Church are responsible for having forbid the book of Enoch... they are hiding something, something they were forbidden by God not to do. In God's infinite wisdom he must have known they would do these things, but how they thought they would get away with leaving in what they have without hanging themselves is a mystery... however, then again, they do know the things that are being kept from everyone else don't they? I have little worry that because God is all knowing everything will be as it should no matter what, so in the end all will be as it should regardless of the tampering, basically it isn't what we have had hidden from us that is so important, but the fate of those whom did the hiding.

Peace

Young Brother said...

The book of Enoch is included in a collection of books called the Apocrypha, I believe. Also banned from the official cannon was the book of Barnabus, for reasons that Peterz explained in his archived post (april)
What Day Is It?

Peter Zarcone said...

Peace.. You might enjoy the book "The Nephilim and the Pyramid of the Apocalypse." The first half is very interesting and well researched. Unfortunately the second half he falls into the same old garbage about the rapture. Also very little insight about the Pyramid. No question the Pyramid had supernatural involvement. I am not sure who's work it was.Some believe it was built by Enoch. I tend to think it was the Nephilim. The main value as I see in the "Book of Enoch" is the uncovering of the workings of the Nephilim,( fallen angles mixed with humanity.) It has become increasingly clear to me that they are still at work in the world today. They may very well be the Illuminati blood line that David Icke speaks of. If that is the case that explains a whole lot about what is going on behind the seines. God had shut things up and now he is beginning to open the heavens. We shall know the truth, and the truth shall make us free. One thing I do know is that they are not "reptilian people" from Mars. I also pray for David Icke, because he has uncovered a great deal of evidence but his conclusions are in error. His ultimate answer is we are our own gods deciding what is truth and not, Same lie the devil told us in the garden. We are our own gods. It is the same old Mind over mater heresy. You can purchase the "Book of Enoch" and check it out. I would be careful of Elizabeth Claire Prophet I don't know much about her yet, but from my respected brothers in Christ, I think she is going down a false road. So if you do read her check it all in the light of the scripture. Never be afraid to seek out truth, just be afraid to jump to quick.
God bless our online fellowship. I wish some of the lurkers that just read would at least say hello and let us know if they are blessed by what they are reading.

Young Brother said...

Hello all, just wanted to share, I've changed my site address. Over the past couple of weeks, I've come to realise just how hokey and paranoid sounding republicanapocalypse is. Just click on my name if you're interested in dropping in.

Sara said...

All I am saying is that you guys seem a little bit carried away with these ideas. You seemed to have lost the big picture. All I ask is that you read your Bible (depending on which one you read, if any) and see that the Antichrist is suppost to meet certian standards and "qualifications". Ones that Bush does not, so far. I agree that Bush is far far far from being the perfect president, but I also believe that no one is perfect, we've had plenty of bad ones. They are only human. I have yet to hear or see anything having to do with Kerry being turned away for communion, his condoning homosexual marriage as well as being prochoice. If anything, I would assume he would fit the role of ONE of the antichrists, maybe not THE antichrist. And possibly for Bush himself, but many people in this network here are saying he IS the antichrist. Whenever Bush thinks he's God, I'll believe. I do however, support some to many of your views. Yes, I am young (21) but sir, you appear to be either younger than me or at least young at heart, hence the wonderful pictures you have posted on your site. God Bless

Peace said...

What is the "big picture" as it relates to the world at present, Sara? Are you at all familiar with "The New World Order" a.k.a. "The Project for a New American Century"? Legit questions, not trying to come off snippy.

Peace

Peter Zarcone said...

Sara... Did you come here seeking answers? or are you too busy? You obviously have no idea, what the Bible actually says about the antichrist. You are only mouthing what you have been told in Sunday school. You have never done any real research, nor have you taken the time to read any of these blogs to find out what is being taught. I would suggest you look up in your Bible the word Antichrist. find out what it says. Note that Jesus says that not all that come unto me saying Lord Lord will enter the kingdom of heaven. Just because George Bush says he is a Christian doesn't make it so. He says one thing and does another. He is a liar. Jesus said that Satan is a Liar and the father of lies.

Amanda said...

I have read the article and agree with allot of things and feel like I am learning more day to day about the large spectrum of things that are happening that are pointing to the begining of the end. Has anyone ever read the book "Survivors" or even heard of it? Whan did feelings about this start with anyone else?

Young Brother said...

What is the basic premise of Survivors? who is it by? Keep digging, keep reading you won't be disappointed. Welcome

Aj said...

PeterZ,

Rather new here,it's been interesting in reading your views on the current scary situation developing in the world today. While I do not share your belief that GB is the A/C, I do not totally dismiss it either. I am also-to be fair- what you might call anti-fundamentalist, having left the organized church for a few years now.
Having said that, belatedly- I must add that in my studies on government, the military, and the Federal Reserve, as well as 'high wierd' areas of strange phenomena(Occult), there does seem to be a path that leads to the veracity of many Christian Bible charges.
What a coincidence.Perhaps I should consider going back to church?
You might find the current article on Hidden undergroud bases @ Artic Beacon.com interesting if not entertaining...
Blessings Be,
AJ
ps. What ever became of Kevin?

aj said...

Peter,

Sorry to be a pest-, credit is due to Jeff Wells from Rigourous Intuition Blog for his coining of the phrase 'high wierdness'.
AJ

Young Brother said...

Hey, I'm Kevin M I now post as young brother, and my blog address has changed to exposetheshadows.blogspot.com Sorry for the quick switch up. I haven't been locked up, Aj. I was wondering what happened to you. Good to hear you speak up. I'm not sure if the fact that, while Christian, we are NOT fundamentalists here has come across clearly. Hope to hear more imput

Anonymous said...

PeterZ,
Susanne here. I haven't been on lately because of new employment (I left the church where I was employed stating that I needed more hours/income, but mostly because I could not stand being around the lack of separation of church and state and their undying love and support of GB.)

But I have missed this site. I continue to watch world events from a biblical view point and am still amazed how people won't open their eyes, minds and hearts. Jesus must be so disappointed in so many of us, but I still think He is opening others' hearts who are willing and able to see. I pray everyday for wisdom for that which He wants me to have and I have no doubt that W. is the antichrist.

I know it was just a dream, but it was so real, I felt like I was being shown something, and before I went to sleep last night I wondered what it will be like to not be around fellow believers (just as a passing thought). I woke up in the middle of the night and said, "oh, that's what it will be like."

My dream was in my house and there were strangers around like it was acceptable and I knew that I was being monitored and controlled and they knew they were monitoring and controlling me and it was just normal(?). But I got away and was led by someone to a huge gathering of people crowded together and then I knew I was home.

God's peace is such an amazing grace in these times that I don't know how people can live without it. He is our EVERYTHING - Hope, strength, forgiveness, peace, so much so that lately I don't really care so much what's going on in this world any more and look forward to the next one that is coming; and I know that He is reassuring me that the best is yet to come. It sure is interesting watching the Bible unfold before our very eyes, as always though, I am saddened and amazed at the complacency I see.

So, good to read all the comments and get caught back up w/you all, and may God continue to bless every one of you.

Susanne

Young Brother said...

Hey all, It's Kevin M, just put up a new post on my blog. Susanne, good to hear from you, not sure if you've heard the word (I don't want to become annoyingly repetitive) exposetheshadows.blogspot.com
As has been stated many times, feedback is encouraged. Kevin G, still out there? haven't heard from you in awhile. Keep the momentum going everyone, this is building up, anyone else feel it?

Kevin G said...

Hello Everyone, I am still here, I posted quite a lot sometime back and I just wanted to read other's posts. I have been doing my Computer artwork lately. Yes, Ha, I do some "Shrub" work too sometimes. I just get so sick and tired of Bush (Shrub) and everything so I need a break. It will be interesting this week to find out if anything more happens in the inditements (Spelling?) and Tom Delay and with Rove and all of them. I hope they can dig up some stuff on old Dubbya too , which won't be too hard! Also it is sounding like Bush (Shrub) is having a hard time getting his lady friend Miers in, Boo hoo! Poor kreep, he's down to what now? 30 some approval rating? Take care everyone, I will post more later.

Peace said...

PeterZ,

When you have an hour to spare if you could watch the following, I would greatly appreciate your opinion...

What Left Behind Left Behind: The Most Dangerous Truth of All"

Thank you so much,

Peace

P.S. Hi Kevin G! :)

Scoots said...

This is my first post, and I must say thank you all for helping us come to understand what is going on in the world.

A while ago someone posted something about reptiles and nephilim, so I did some searching on the web and found some interesting sites. Granted, they should be taken with a grain of salt along with anything you read nowadays, but it attempts to uncover the mystery of the pyramids and UFO's by explaining that UFO's are fallen angels who turned to technology after they lost favor with God.... well, here's the link, you reading it will do more than my repeating it :)

http://www.mt.net/~watcher/stones.html
http://www.mt.net/~watcher/pyramid.html

It's an interesting way of looking at it, and was just wondering what you guys and gals thought about it.

Again, thank you for sharing your knowledge on here. It is of extreme comfort and help during these times.

Scoots

Peter Zarcone said...

Peace.. I watched the link, I thought it was worth the time, he has some good things in what he has taught, like the point that Antichrist "WENT OUT FROM US" meaning from within the confines of Christianity. He ultimately misses the big picture, and makes a plug for Seventh day Adventism. They are all part of the same Whore. Yes there have been many Antichrists, but a spirit raises up a man. America has George Bush now because we deserve him. He has not given America it's false values and self indulgence. It was our greed and corruption as a society that raised up George Bush. The man of sin came as a result of the spirit in the land, not the other way around. He also apparently still believes in a "rapture" which as I have taught is heresy.
Welcome Scoots..

Peace said...

Thank you so much for your input, Peter. Pretty sure he is in agreement with your perspective on rapture though, you can take a look at the following and let me know if it does coincide with your evolutions. Love...

Peace

Rapture Theory

Peace said...

Hi Scoots, I'll look into your links, thanks for sharing and for joining us here on PeterZ's blog... Being here with one another has brought about many eye openers, one or more gathered in Jesus' name and zipitidodah we're on a fun ride. haha... Welcome.

Peace

Young Brother said...

Hey scoots, It was me that went crazy about the reptiles for awhile. I'm actually warming up to a more involved dissection of the whole idea in my own blog, but there are more steps than I had originally thought along the way. The masses have been turned around so much, that real direction is almost lost on us, but it is still there. And magnetic north points to God the Father. We just have to resensitize to that signal. Truth has never really left us, it's just been kidnapped and is being held for ransom (in a manner of speaking) but by the grace of God we can take it back.
Thank you for the link, if no one else claims it, I'll nab it for my blog. Haven't had a chance to check it out yet, but it sounds interesting from what you say.
Check out the comments of my latest post, and you will find yet another blogger with reptiles on the brain.
(so to speak) Welcome welcome welcome.

Scoots said...

Thank you all for such a warm welcome!!!

The links I gave are slightly out there, but I still find it interesting to read other peoples thoughts.

Young brother, I'll definately check out your blog :)

Scoots

Peace said...

Hi Young Bro... I think there are a few of us that were intrigued with what Icke had to share that is for sure and I am one who does appreciate any added information or thoughts anyone feels to share.

I found Scoots' link to be very informative and helpful in gaining more perspective on things... and it seems my original first instinct connecting the "reptiles" to the "fallen angels" has been underlined by the interesting observations found at that link. I have more reading to do there but completed the "The Pyramids of Egypt & Mars" page, fascinating. It all makes a lot of sense to me, but I find it difficult to convey, as when I am reading I make connections to other points of biblical significance and other referrences to biblical studies that I have picked up from various other places... I believe that the Holy Spirit does protect and guide me in distinguishing meat from bones, but I'm afraid it would take me a millennium to translate the speed of light. lol

Peace

Young Brother said...

I'm mid-read on the "stones" link, you are right, Peace. Fascinating stuff. I've left the worn out mental residue of this possibility (not even likelyhood, just possibility) in the comments section of my blog if you want a more detailed take. Things really seem to be picking up speed. We're catching on, I think to the fact that the hand of God is guiding us, and we are growing in faith because of the things we witness. Now its a matter of "what next?"

Peace said...

I hear you, Young Brother, the Lord is very generous in deed.

PeterZ,

Wanted to say in regard to the last link I send you to, there is a series of videos at the bottom, you may watch them if you would like, but I was only referring to the text in that the rapture theory is "dangerous".

I hadn't actually watched the series of vids accompanying but began to this morning beginning with the first. On just the half hour or so that I have watched my own personal feeling here is that I do not think it right for anyone to think they will be saved while others will parish in a sense that one must follow the teachings of a certain interpretation of the bible. I think my feelings on this subject are evident in my profile. Anyway, I don't at this point know where he is going to end up with his sermon but the first half hour inspired the following rant......

I believe that there are people from every walk of life and religion that will be welcomed into the arms of eternal life with the Lord. To be a true Christian in my belief is as I have stated and I think that all references to "whoever believeth in me shall not parish but have everlasting life" is relative to where a persons heart is concerning love, mercy, compassion, and all spiritual/emotional feeling... it is the true goodness of a persons heart, those who live in awe of the wonderful things, the world and all in it, particularly the precious children. Children are not infected with doctrine, they are pure and perceive the world and one another through un adulterated eyes. They have not ever once uttered the name "Jesus" and in many cases my have never ever heard the name said allowed, but yet they are closer to Jesus than any other living creature on earth. One of the most precious things I have had the heartwarming pleasure to witness more that once in my life is when babies see another for the first time, they hug and kiss and are so genuinely thrilled with each other. They have no judgment, no fear, they are not afraid of any level of physical differences, standing in the world or financial status they do not know selfishness... on and on in matters of perfection and beauty we can go. It is not until they are old enough to be either effected by the pain of the world or warned of it that they begin to become part of the confusion and lose their precious righteousness.

When a person later in life recognizes this righteous purity it is the beginning of understanding the kingdom of God. I think that people that are true Christians are those who are angered by nothing more in the world than when another harms a child's innocence. This is the nature of the human spirit that is filled with the truth of Jesus Christ, and it is not physically spoken it is written on the heart. It is in the nature of almost all animals to protect their young from harm, but it is exclusive to humans to protect "innocence". Right there one can get a glimpse into the personality and reality of the Lord God and our being created in his image. One of the things that brings a parent much anxiety is that their comes a time when we must warn our children of the dangers of the world, if we do not they will become victims of those who seek to take advantage of their innocence. Right there one can get a glimpse into the personality and reality of, Satan and how their are in deed those who are created as well in his image. We try ever so carefully to warn them without taking from them what we are trying to keep others from taking. In this, the parent child of God is being effected and harmed by, Satan.

I have chosen to bring up these points because I feel it is extremely important in helping to recognize what kind of mistakes are being made by the design of "religion". The separation of people, the teaching that one is right all others are wrong. Any people that think any killing of innocent people is acceptable can not possibly know who Christ is... all who agree that harming the innocent, disrespecting God's creations in any way is the worst act of dehumanization do in fact know and are giving worship to the one and only, Jesus Christ. There are some so called "Christians" who believe killing others of another religion is perfectly okay with, God, whoever is responsible for the lies is a tool of, Satan but, worse is that the person who believes these lies has forsaken their God given gift of the Holy Spirit. When attempting to re-acquaint one with the Holy Spirit the best advise I can offer is for that person to imagine what it was like to be an innocent child, if they can not then take a moment out and observe children around you, those who have yet not been corrupted by knowledge. It is a glimpse of true freedom... it is pure gold and should have the witness in constant desire of that freedom. We are here and the world is imperfect, we have no choice but to walk through the fire... there is no religion on the planet that will spare a person their personal trek through this fire... the hope is that at some point in one's life they will once again become, "gold". The world is corrupt and vile, I do not truly live in this world. I will live out the rest of my life with the promise that a life benign of any of these cancers exists. It truly breaks my heart when I see my fellow human beings who love their children and will do anything to protect them not have the love for their neighbor to know that they too love their children... to place other human beings in the state of watching their children or parents be subjected to that which they worst fear happening to themselves is the single most common mistake I worry about my fellow humans making. It is upon the realization of this that brings about the true repentance of humans...

If I were given but one single thing I could stress to all, it would be to recognize our likenesses and cherish them with the utmost respect.

Peace

Peter Zarcone said...

Peace... I watched the videos, He had some truth about what not to believe, but I don't think he sees what God's plan is in the end.
Concerning your last post, I have taught in a previous post that we are not saved by our doctrines, but truth is conveyed by teaching. We are fed by the word of God. We grow up into Christ like beings as we receive SOUND doctrine. The question is not just being saved, but growing up into Christ. Eph:4:15: But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 1Pt:2:2: As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

Peace said...

Truth, ya gotta love it. :) I do and think it comes in all languages, even body language... human, celestial, what have you. haha

I long to know the full extent of the truths, there is so much to know though that the Lord will only allow us what we can withstand as individuals... I love how personalized God is in knowing us so intimately that he knows exactly what we need and when we need it.

Thanks PZ,
Peace

Young Brother said...

I've posteed an outline for my future coverage on the nature of angels, the naure of demons, the Nephilim and the Illuminati. It's more of a slideshow and scripture teaser, but it's a start. Scoot, hope I didn't scare you off, buddy.

Anonymous said...

Hey everyone,
Just watching the Left Behind video and it is so interesting. Everyone I talk to thinks I'm crazy because I don't believe in the Rapture. Really enjoying watching someone speak the truth and using the Bible while doing it. He'll never be on MSM!!

Susanne

Peace said...

Peter,

I went on line to find The Book of Enoch, found it here...

Enoch

Very interesting, very! Only just cracking open the one titled "Book 3 Astronomy". I'm sure it will be interesting as well. Just sharing the link in case there are others here that are curious to know what has been taken out of their bibles.

Peace

Peter Zarcone said...

Peace.. Thank you for posting the link for Enoch. Although we know that obviously at least part of the book was written by Enoch and inspired since Jude quotes from it, it was never part of the Old Testament nor considered to be ALL authentic. It is widely believed to have been tampered with and added to, so we don't have a complete understanding as to how much is without error. I think it does give us an insight into the fallen angels doings. and important to be familiar with. Just a note of caution.

Peace said...

Thank you, Peter, I had considered those things. I found the Epistle of Enoch to be quite truthful in that it is substantiated by Jesus himself.

It is the part about the angels which offers more than what has been left in the bible as well as the astronomical brilliance that was shared relating to the heavens. Those parts had they been left in would have spared many the confinements of prison at the hands of the Catholic Church. They've been long thought by many to have been keeping secrets pertaining to lost scriptures and writings that belong in the bible. They killed many people, calling them heretics as if they have the authority to do so... when clearly... to take the life of another is of the most unrighteous of sins. There is no such thing as a "just war"... it is as deceitful as the "rapture".

What are your thoughts on the Epistle? I found it to be full of truth that speaks to the spirit of the righteous. Over all though I found it in no way contradictory to that which we know of the bible. I do see why the Catholic Church would hide it as it does point a very direct finger at their particular style of deceit and oppression. As it is that truth is still there but it takes a person free of the interpretations of the so called "scholars" to be inlightened.

Peace

Young Brother said...

Peace, may I point out the many wars that Israel's history is filled with. Wars which God himself demands not victory over the enemy, but complete extermination of several nations. Case in point, the Canaanites, who inhabited the land God promised to Israel. The Canaanites were of Giant stature, a physical trait posessed only those with divine blood, Aka Nephilim. Not all the people God demanded Israel wipe out posessed those traits. I'm not suggesting that, but all of these nations were wicked in the eyes of God. Which leads one down some interesting avenues of thought.
Now I might add, that was the way things went in the old testement, under the law of Moses, which Christ fullfilled and rendered obsolete. (as Peterz has shared) And under Christ, we are not called to war, we are not called to dominance, we are called to service, a life that many fun-dementalists are just too lazy to claim. And despite what the fold is told, service is not an hour of meeting in some building, with a large group of people listening to whatever scripture one man has read and interpreted. Service is a radical lifetime commitment. That is more fulfilling that anything Bush in his greedy narrow-mindedness could fathom.
By becoming a servant to all, we gain an empathy that is absolutely invaluable. Because despite what some (not saying you, Peace) think: that God started everything and went on vacation until he comes back to clean this mess up, the evidence is overwhelmingly to the contrary. God is actively involved in every aspect of his creation, and he finds enjoyment out of serving us. He loves us, and as a mother, you know the fulfillment of serving and providing for your children. He is not our slave, by any means, but he puts up with a lot of our nonsense, that's for sure. And despite a historically furious and destructive temper, he has not destroyed us yet. That's love. and servitude, and as wrong as the idea of almighty God serving man may seem, remember the most obvious example of service and love: Jesus Christ.
Maybe God serving man doesn't sound as borderline blasphemous to you as it does to me, The Father has always seemed above all that to me. but I got on a tangent there.

The main point I was trying to make, is that if the people who were labled as christians in the world today actually posessed the spirit of Him, there would be no war. There would be no hunger. It doesn't matter that christianity isn't even the world religion with the highest numbers, the wake of the example the number of people who say "Lord, Lord" would set if they were in the spirit, could not help but change the attitude, the structure, the very face of this world. But no, we live in a country with millions of ribbon bumper stickers which say "support our troops" and really mean "don't question our murders" We have a heart-felt nation-wide televised ongoing event called "operation prayer shield" when it is not a loving prayer, but a plea for divine protection in a plan for world domination. We have home-bred terrorists and terrorist sypathizers who say they are "pro-life" but actually are trying to set themselves between us and our freedom to choose (even to choose sin) given to us by God. Personally, I'm not a fan of abortion, but how presumtuous to think that by blowing up a clinic you are helping God by saving the baby he created to cure cancer (I've heard that arguement). We are not called to endorse sin, but we are more often in scripture not to judge, and we are warned that the measure by which we judge others is also the measure by which we'll be judged.

p.s. there is a continuation of the Walmart angle on my blog now.

Peace said...

Thank you Young Brother...

You may find the following website of interest? I stumbled across it a while back when all the talk of war began and I was troubled. Everyone around me were waving flags, the news was treating the idea of war as if it were a trip to the fair, displaying a Shock and Awe like it was the fourth of July. My heart was in shreds as I thought of those effected by those bombs, after all we had all just experienced the pain ourselves with the attack on the WTC, only that attack was at a much smaller scale than the Shock and Awe. I was beside myself with loneliness, the hunt for Bin Laden had already set me in the mode of thinking "what about "vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord, turn the other cheek and of course thall shalt not kill"?" So, by the time we wound up going to Iraq it was time to begin considering what all of this meant in the big picture.

I found comfort in knowing there were people out there that understood scripture in the same way I do... Be sure and check out the "Philosophy of Peace".

Christians For Peace

I was blogging on a political website around election time with a woman who represented the Christian right and was a very devout Bush supporter. Who after I sent her to that site as I felt it explained my position very well, she came back with talking to me about how George Bush was appointed by God, and God speaks to him and she had faith that the Lord would not let us down by allowing a bad person to run this country. All I could say in response was, "if God is telling Bush to kill people I have some very scary news, THAT ISN'T GOD". She continued to support him no matter what conversation transpired. My heart was saddened to know that she was one of many who also felt the same way. I was at my wits end when... a person from that same blog, posted the link to Stephen's website. From there things just began to move forward. I am grateful to know you all and if he is out there, especially would like to thank that person who posted the link.

Peace

Peter Zarcone said...

Peace... when we say something is scripture, we mean that we believe that every "Jot and Title" is God inspired, that it is perfect in it's original form. Completely without error. I just don't know that to be the case with the Book of Enoch. It may be 90% or 80% I don't know. We do know that not all of it was from pre-flood era. How much is added I don't know. It all may be 100% true, and not necessarily 100% scripture, meaning God breathed. I just don't know, so I can't put the same weight, value and confidence in it as scripture. It certainly does give us some answers though.
Thank you so much for your posting the link to the video on the Money Masters. It is EXCELLENT!!! Would you please post the link to the root site on here as well as the video. I think it is a MUST SEE for everyone.It is long but worth it.
I had known a lot about all the banking scams but it put a lot of the missing pieces to the puzzle together for me and had the best explanation of how the control came into being. It also offered a great solution to the debt this nation has. Unfortunately I don't think it has a snowballs chance in hell of happening, but it would work.

Peace said...

You are welcome for that link, PZ, it is one video that should be viewed by all. I agree with what you said concerning his solution not having a snowball's chance.

As for "scripture" it is a technicality really and I respect your views and adherence to what you know to be true. What I know to be true though is only what God has seen fit for me to know whether from the bible or from a fictional movie designed to enlighten people to truth. If Jesus told you "God is Love" and I told you "God is Love" would I be any less truthful than Jesus? No, because you know in your heart that both Jesus and myself are right by virtue of the Holy Spirit which has been given you and I both by Jesus. We know truth when we see it, it is written on our hearts. Now "seeing it" is an entirely other ballgame, when in doubt sticking to the directions on the box is a safe bet. :) So, in that way I totally agree with you but always know that we can trust the Lord will guide us in the directions we need to go... I can read something from a cereal box and all of a sudden a light will turn on relating to scripture. This recently happened to me after I read the book of Enoch, the Lord carried me off into thinking about carpentry and wood. He in deed does work in mysterious ways.

Peace

Young Brother said...

the Lord works in mysterious ways, I agree with you on that, peace. But I can attest, you don't need to go outside of the Bible to find all the resources, understanding and prophecy anyone could ever need.
The problem is that the Bible has been flash-burned by the modern day church. It's a book thousands of pages thick, spanning authorship and history over thousands of years.

It's a book that should not be, because it seems to break down the rules of time with it's prophecies (and there are oh-so-many). The Bible has been given the bum wrap, some people around here seem to think it was made currupt and used by King James to spread the control the few have had over the many. As the INSPIRED WORD OF GOD it has enough strength to defend it's character if only people would have an open mind, and read it for themselves.
Case in point I have recently stumbled across the last segment of the book of Judges. which I think has incredible metaphors running rampant through out.

I do not doubt that God can reveal himself however he chooses to, I do not doubt that the Lord works in mysterious ways, I am not saying that Satan doesn't want to keep us from the truth. That's all he wants, because that's all he needs to accomplish his wicked goals. That's all he has ever needed. What I am saying, is that the Bible is more of a resource than we give it credit for. I read it when I was younger, but I've started to read it again in the past year. Just after reading the Bush-is-antichrist website alone, the words of the Bible made sense in a way they never had before.
I would very much like you (peace, and anyone else up to the challenge) to read the end of Judges, and tell me what you think about it. Just post your comments on my blog for this one.
Also, read Peterz's post on Love and Choice as a refresher. The purity of Jewish blood is an obsession that follows the history of it's people (until about 70 AD). In light of some of what we've been finding out, I would love to hear your feedback.

Young Brother said...

Judges chapters 17 to it's end at 21.
be warned, it's graphic. Also have you read the book of Job lately? If you feel like it's just not fair for people like bush to be goofing off, rolling in the dough and vacationing while the poorest of the poor (the very people he claims to care about) are dehydrating and starving a few hundred miles away (4 days this went on) there is a reason for injustice. There is a reason God hasn't punished the wicked so far. Because in order to do so, he must completely destroy them. They are among us in all walks of life. We would be detroyed with them, so he's waiting until we are ripe. (see my post on furthing exposure) Fascinting truths can be found within the (looks like) restricted borders of the covers of your nearest Bible. Don't ever forget that. anyone. If you don't think so, read it for yourself, then tell me what you think.
expose_darkness@yahoo.com

Anonymous said...

It looks as though people are smarter than people in the US! Have you seen the riots down there- Wow. Maybe people are starting to wake up. Maybe more will turn to God now. We can always live and hope.

My God Rules!
Susanne

Anonymous said...

Oops - sorry; it looks like people in Argentina are smarter than people in the US. (That's what I meant to say.) Sorry....
Keep your eyes on Jesus-always.
Susanne

Peace said...

Hi,

If you don't mind I'll reply here... I do have to get over to your blog and check out your Wal Mart post. I look forward to it. :) Not sure where you are going with this but this is all I can say regarding your request...

Judges; from that particular portion I see there much chaos, the reminder that "there was no king of Israel in those days" is referring to, so, "no Jesus, no Holy Spirit". A lot of describing the need for such a king seemed to be the point. There is symbolism in that the Levite cuts his already raped and murdered concubine into 12 pieces... then sends the pieces to the separate parts of Israel. Later those would be referred to as the "12 tribes of Israel"....

That "Jesus would be reunited with his bride" may have some relevance? Not saying the Levite who would sacrifice her up to the wolves to spare himself was Jesus, not by a long shot, the woman is referred to as the Levite's "concubine" which means, she lived with him but they were not legally married... and we have to think in spiritual terms, so it's not a land law it is God's law... The woman may represent "the suffering", Jesus is yet to come, but is coming for His bride.

She had gone to stay with her father after becoming angry with the man, he goes after her and the father tries to get him to stay, but he eventually takes the woman and leaves. The woman is treated very poorly by all, even her man, all with exception to her father with whom she finds comfort, happiness and peace. Why did she decide to go with the Levite when he left the father's house, what had he done to redeem himself of her anger toward him and her original choice to leave him? Hey, I think she should have remained with her father, don't you? ;)

All the reasons the Israelites, Benjaminites etc do the despicable things they do are because they are lawless. As we can see that the "lawless" of our time do the same things. There is only one unforgivable sin, it is to "blaspheme the Holy Spirit"... The Holy Spirit is, the law giver. Prior to Jesus coming the only lawgivers were Moses and John The Baptist.

In the dream shared by the disciples they saw three divine beings whom they recognized as Moses, Elijah, and Jesus... and said to Jesus "but Elijah has not come yet", to which Jesus replied, "he has, you know him as, "John the Baptist"". John was the great influence over the people, he and Moses were the only givers of righteous law until Jesus baptized us with the Holy Spirit. John was the speaker in the "wilderness" he ate locust and wore animal skins, people would go to him to learn God's law. There are meanings to all of these things. The important thing here is that Moses and Elijah were hanging with Jesus, all of their wisdoms can be attained via the Holy Spirit.

Basically though Kevin I don't usually spend too much time in the old testament as I feel Jesus said pretty much all he cared to on the subject. He said what he had to say and it is what we need to focus on at all times in order to make heads or tails of everything else; what we should hold important and what we should not. Small example, at one point people were told that eating shell fish was a sin, had that rule needed to remain Jesus would have said so... but he in fact said that we are not to care what anyone else is eating, not to judge them because of their beliefs. One might consider that to mean no matter what religion one comes from it does not mean they are not His.

Peace

Anonymous said...

Peace,
Once again you have such an eloquent way of saying things and I enjoy your insights more than ever. These are such interesting times; I don't have any fear of what is coming (other than for my children, but God will show me what to do when I need to do it)because everything that is happening just gets us closer to Jesus and His return.

I have a sister who is a Jehova's Witness and I was wondering if there's anything you can think of (I've tried everything) to get her to believe that Jesus is God, but she so strongly believes that the Bible was very badly translated in order to trip people into damnation by believing in the Trinity. Any insight?
Thanx,
Susanne

Scoots said...

"One might consider that to mean no matter what religion one comes from it does not mean they are not His."
- Peace

I had a discussion along those lines with a few friends and was wondering what your guys opinion on it was. My personal view is that, especially in the older times, it was extremely hard for the Word to spread, especially into other countries and or continents. Do you guys and gals believe that God would work to at least instill a strong moral sense into other cultures that had not yet heard the Word, in order to hopefully ready them for the time that they would hear and believe? Obviously there would be other religions of the area, but to regions that had yet to find out about Christianity, is it possible that God could have divinely inpired some sort of moral code or ethics that were just assimilated into their religions?

I know that is a controversial idea ... at least in my area... but it reminds me of the lost sheep. Now the sheep, the people who have never heard the Word, would not only be lost, but would have been lost from birth. I don't think it is a wild idea that God would offer guidance to these lost people, do you?

btw- sorry for hijacking this thread and carrying it to a different area. ^_^

Scoots

Young Brother said...

Peace, thank you for taking my challenge and giving us your thoughts. I agree with you that Christ rendered the old testement's law fulfilled, but Christ said: not one letter of the torah would be lost before his return and there has to be a reason for this. I believe the Bible can be used to expose this shadow network of puppeteers some call Anunaki Aliens, or the Illuminati, Nephilim or what have you. The true identity of this network is, as we have already established (and you elaborated on quite well, I think) Evil.
The biggest ticking time bomb that could be used to topple these guys, in my opinion, is the religious right: While misled and sinfully indulged in self-righteousness, a majority of them did start out with good intentions, and lie dormant as the seeds that fell among the thorns. They are overshadowed by a network of "weeds", blocked off from the nourishment of "the sun". They are circling around in an infantile level of depth in the path, telling the ressurection story over and over(in the churches I went to at least), and although the ressurection is important, what Christ did for us is spiritual milk. What we can do for Christ is the solid food of the walk.

And that includes being familiar with your weapon against the evil of this earth, which is the sword of the spirit, or the word of God. all aspects of it It seems to me that we may be able to use the sword of the spirit to cut away some of what obstructs these dormant believers. If anything: these people believe their Bible. But thanks to chewed up, regurgitated and watered down inturpretations of scripture, such as Rick Warren's Purpose Driven Life (althought the final few chapters do have some insight), they have no idea what the darn thing says. They think they do, they think they are saved by their doctorines, but by dedicating yourself to the study of scripture, you see time and time again how man's doctrine is flawed, how man's curruption is complete, and just how serious the enemies we face are.
What are they being told? Doctrine leads to salvation, man's curruption is relative, and somehow doesn't count if you've prayed the sinner's prayer, and the enemies we face are to be repressed and persecuted: like gays and lesbians, or girls who for whatever reason don't wish to be mothers. That lie, like all lies of the devil, evaporates under the probing light of the word of God. The word (which was the torah) is the weapon of choice during the temptation of Christ. It was used by both Satan and Christ then, just as it is now, however truth out of context evaporates just as easily as an outright lie, when it is held up against God's perfect truth, which is known by the holy spirit, which dwells in us (as cliche'd as it may sound). I can only hope that is the case.
That said, I thought it was interesting that members of a tribe of Judah would be currupted, and defile this woman through their rape. Defilement to the point of death. What this suggested to me, was that this is an event, preserved through time in scripture, which was also a prophecy for the fate of the jewish people.
The Jewish race were kept by God to preserve a purely human bloodline from Adam to Christ, that was a primary calling. They were also made to write down and preserve God's inspired word. Even though the law was fulfilled, the stories are still there so that we can learn from and use them as a weapon in this very real war. With the death of Christ at the hands of his very people, they rendered themselves completely currupt and by killing the son of God, shattered any agreement between God and these people.

You want something that will bend your mind? We already know of Jesus as the son of God, but by being the only man to completely obey the jewish law his entire life, he became a new source of pleasure to God as well. Israel is constantly referred to as an unfaithful wife

(and because the woman in judges is a concubine, I DO NOT think that she is in reference to Christ but rather the harlot Jerusalem, but I'm on a tangent here, so bear with me).

Jesus Christ, son of God, God incarnate, 100%God and 100%man, was the only man ever to be a completely faithful bride to God. Adam was unfaithful, and every other man from Him to us has been unfaithful in some way, except Christ. Because he was undeniably a man, and lived a blameless life, he fulfills the role of a loving and faithful bride of God. And he recieves the full measure of God's powerful and love. The sanctifying power of the blood of Christ makes us his equals in purity and perfection in the eyes of God. Now, in heaven, Christ has reclaimed his role as part of the God head, and we humans, cleansed by his neccesary sacrifice are his Bride. the Bride of Christ, saved by blood, not by doctorine. And the slave woman, who was unfaithful (the reason she left her husband) is the jewish race, made impure by the evils of this world.

Now I have no idea what the significance of the girl's father delaying the departure of the Levite and his wife is. None, I read that, and I draw a complete blank. And I'll admit that chapter's 17 and 18 seem irrelevent when compared to the story of the last three chapters. sorry about that.

But another point of interest is the issue of kings, which you brought up. Israel's first king comes from the tribe of benjamin, the tribe considered to be impure in Judges. It wasn't God's idea that Israel have a king. Read Samuel 1 for a refresher, But Saul, the most physically attractive, tall and regal-looking man in Israel was chosen as king, only to fall out of favor with God, in favor of king David. With the exception of David and Solomon (who were shown to be curruptable themselves, but were in God's favor for the most part) the Kings of Israel have been miserable failures. The original system of judges is actually very closely alligned for what radical young anarchists are formulating as an alternative to the current pecking order. Everyone does what seems right. No illusion of authority, all are equal below God. That is the natural order. The notion of Kings, of presidents, of some that are better and more entitled to the world's riches than others, that is a system based on sin.

Young Brother said...

Scoots, good to hear from you again.
It says in Revelation that every knee shall bow and every tongue confess before the Lord, so the idea of the world being prepared for that (at least the people that aren't actively destroying this planet, and you know who I mean) isn't radical at all. Other than that, I don't really know. maybe some of the others could also pitch in?

Scoots said...

Young Brother, that was an excellent post, what stuck out the most to me was this quote from you, "No illusion of authority, all are equal below God. That is the natural order. The notion of Kings, of presidents, of some that are better and more entitled to the world's riches than others, that is a system based on sin."

I absolutely love how completely egalitarian God is in consideration of all of us. The corruption of the church I went to when I was younger was the reason I left the church for awhile to find my own path. Anyplace that makes you feel ashamed for not having enough money to donate to the rebuilding of the church (apparently they don't care about volunteering, just money) is a place you should not attend. The fact that so many people believe that they are entitled to be rich and selfish while the guy down the street is dying of hunger is absolutely astounding to me. And when you realize that some of these people call themselves Christians... it breaks my heart... not only that they have become so corrupted, but that they have completely twisted the message so they can justify their greed.

Scoots

Peace said...

Susanne, never really thought of myself as "eloquent", still the sweetheart, thank you. I'm not sure what you might tell your sister, but the interesting thing about her being worried about the bible being badly translated is that she could be right but they all could be? We can all be reading the same bible and a bad translation could happen. lol... Which is why I strongly believe in the power of the Holy Spirit to guide us to truth even if we were looking a book of blank pages. I think PeterZ's upcoming post on "who Jesus is" may provide you some conversation fodder with her? It is our love for one another that will save even those who might be misled, even if that person is ourselves. The Golden Rule is key. To humble one's self is also an important thing as it manifests itself in one's understanding that there is something they may yet need to learn. If we believe we know it all we limit ourselves to learning more. One can not boast in the presence of the Lord... can be understood in many ways. One that no matter how much we know we will never know as much as he... also that when a person boasts he will not be present. Kind of like when we see someone carrying on talking about how great they are, what that does is hurts the person whom they are with in that it belittles them and makes them feel invalidated and that is not how Christ conducted himself. If Christ wanted to make a point with his accusers he would use their own doctrine to make that point... he would ask a very good question and the listener would have to ask themselves that question and answer it for themselves. The choice was left to them. Christ was the opposite of a dictator, the best teacher there ever was or will ever be and he did it by asking a person to ask themselves not by saying he knew all and all had better listen to him, which is the style of the dictator. We are given the means to know the answers to the questions that is, Holy Spirit.

When Jesus asks a question he is not being patronizing but is genuine, he wants the person whom he is asking to answer, not anything that any person may have told them was the answer, he is talking to you and interested in what YOU have to say, it is not a set up so he can then bring a person down. He is validating and empowering, he makes us feel important and valued. When a person feels their value they have no need to go out and prove anything to anyone, what they would or should want is for everyone else to be treated with the same respect and value so they too will know all is good and they have no need to prove anything. That is the truest confidence.

Hi Young Brother, carry on wayward son, there will be peace when you are done, now lay your weary head to rest, don't you cry no more". :) Mean that in the nicest way; we must protest, but in any event God will make all right. Yes, we can learn about what they are doing to us and even try to stop them, but would have to do so without becoming that which we know to be wrong, and if it works then, good deal. Because of the fact that they are controlling media, ballot boxes, starting of wars and are forcing us into a police state I don't know how the religious right will do any good even if they do wake up to the truth, it's too late. When there is corruption to this extent the will of the people is smothered. If the people were to rise against them we would find ourselves in a civil war, one in which they have all the military and weapons at their beck and call. (that can be taken physically or metaphorically) Again though to bring ourselves to their level would be compromising our beliefs and reasons for rising against them... there's a saying, "never argue with a fool, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience." They are already trying to diminish the population of those who have nothing to lose and would be likely to rise against them. Their ways of doing this run the gambit... from poisoning, imprisoning, to controlling our weather, to providing quality health care and protection to those who are more likely to back them on an on... they are exalting themselves of every wrongdoing while at the same time punishing and accusing others of that which they are guilty, they are the epitome of hypocrisy. God willing though one way or the other justice will be brought to victory.

Peace

Young Brother said...

Excellent point Peace. That's why I brought the passage up to you. It was either a case of the sword of the spirit clearing the way of light for humanity in general (the mainstream is most definatly covered in the light-blocking canopy), or it was the case that the slave woman represents not only the nation of israel, but also the professing church. God will judge all according to his or her actions, I still believe that, but thanks to what you shared, I now realise my hope against hope was close to their view of the rapture. Salvation for the wicked...Ultimately I think the case will be more like the repentant theif on the cross of Christ. Those who didn't ask questions, who followed along, who lack any real faith, they will realize when judgement comes and every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess that Christ is Lord, just who Christ is.

Interestingly enough, I just ran across a very short story I wrote back in high school. It was a futuristic setting, where the church has become one with the state, and the letter of the law has all but killed it's spirit (I kid you not, I wrote this six,seven years ago) There is a group of outcastes in this superficially perfect society, who take majic mushrooms (high school, what can I say) and for some reason the mushrooms of the future not only affect their minds, but also their reality. short story shorter ;) this group of people (who I should mention started out as a collective of normal religious outcasts) who would not bow down beofre the God of the state, was collectively granted abilities close to those obtained at pentecost, because of the mushrooms they ate. they start creating havoc (they have no idea what's happening and can't control themselves at first, causing unintentional property damage and in one case, the death of an innocent) so the state declares war on them, and starts hunting them down. The story ends in the rapture, with the religious politeachers waiting in line to accept eternity in hell, and they can't believe that they were wrong.

Talk about creepy, huh? Anyway, I hope I don't present myself as a know-it-all. I knew nothing a year ago, I know that more than anything. I am sharing what I learn as I learn it for the most part. I apologize if I come accross as a bit intense.
Love you all,

Anonymous said...

Peace and everyone,
Thanks for the response, Peace. And, yes, it was eloquent. But your humbleness doesn't surprise me. I'll continue to pray for my sister's understanding, but especially my own.

I plan on opening up the Book of Judges tonight. I am not familir with this Book hardly at all and I just wanted to say how glad I am to have this circle of like-minds to come to, especially with all the unrest everywhere on this Earth.

For me, I can't think of a better use for the computer than this.

Susanne

Young Brother said...

Amen to that Susanne. How about this for a thought. We've been exploring the illuminati, the Nephilim, the men who are not Bush, and yet are interwoven in this "antichrist" system. I've been using those words, "Bush is antichrist" when I talked to anyone that would listen. That's how I thought of it as, and in a way it's true. But there are also other antichrists among us now, in many different forms.
What we have discovered is that the nature of the illuminati is the illusion of division. We are led to believe that the evils of this planet have nothing really to do with each other, even if for instance they could be tied together by fragments and links, those links are downplayed. The reason some of us now know for that is that they are in fact connected in secretive but consistant ways. Peace, I watched the money changers video, it really got me thinking. The evil of those men is almost more potent than anything Bush could do. Why?

George W Bush is not the beast that raises up out of the sea, as has been assumed by me, and I think others. No, Bush is a little horn with a loud mouth on top of one of the beast's seven heads.
I think Stephen has done a fantastic job on both his website and his blog by portraying the prophetic connections between this beast and the history of America. I am not doubting that his insight there is off at all, however I am suggesting we consider this prophecy as others have shown themselves to be: outside of time, heavy on the visualization, specific enough to be prooven, yet general enough to have more than one application.

The main arguement I've had no good reply to until now, is "Bush can't be the antichrist, he's an unknowing puppet, or a pawn at best." Of course, if you try to portray Bush as the Beast of the Sea. But he is the little horn on a head of the Giant and terrible beast(illuminati), he is the mouth, he is the tip of the iceberg, not the top of the pyramid. That role always has belonged to lucifer. Bush is seeming more and more to be like Satan's fall guy, rather than his human son (another misconception of mine). Bush is getting away with murder not because he's charismatic or charming. Ask his cabinet, he's a nightmare. Bush is getting away with murder because he recieves his power from the beast.

The little horn = the tip of the iceberg. thoughts? am I way off here? or on to something?

Peace said...

Wasn't calling you a know it all, just giving some idea to Susanne how Jesus made headway.

You are well spoken, Kevin. I appreciate you sharing your thoughts. :)

Hope everyone is having a nice weekend.

Peace

Young Brother said...

Thank you very much Peace. I'm am so very glad to be here and a part of this. very good portrayal of Christ, evven though he did know it all, he tended to approach people more as Socrates would.
Like when the pharasees came to him with the adulterous woman and asked him "what should we do" trying to trick him, and he says, "He who is without sin cast the first stone" While he is the only one qualified to judged the woman, he instead started to draw peacefully in the dirt, waiting for the self-righteous crowd to disperse. The more I find out Jesus was nothing like George Bush is, the more deeply I love him, our personified God, who is loving and caring, compassionate and humerous, seems impatient at times but is totally reliable. How could anyone that knows Christ not love him? (rhetorical question)

also in regards to the short story I wrote in highschool. I know of course that psychedlic drugs won't play a role in our awakening, the human machine is untapped wonders and miracles. How far we have gone from claiming our identity as made in God's own image. Except for the people here. We are being made ready to set the best example ever. These times are wonderfully exciting.

Young Brother said...

White house, Federal reserve connection.
http://today.reuters.com/investing/financeArticle.aspx?type=bondsNews&storyID=2005-11-06T170002Z_01_N04416859_RTRIDST_0_BUSH-FED.XML
sounds funny, of you don't know the federal reserve is a private coorporation.

Shauna said...

This is my first post. I think this site is very infomative. Bush certanly seems like he could be the antichrist. First thing I wanted to comment on is the bird flu, their was a news story on the other day that said sour kraut can cure bird flu, I think it said the chinese tested it on infected chickens and it cured 11 out of 15 chickens.

My 2nd comment is just to warn people about large pharacutical companies, just for example I read several good articles about how HIV does not cause aids, the medicine they give you to supress aids is what kills the immune system, check out this web site www.virusmyth.net/aids/controversy.htm

Seems like these huge companies care more about money than health, they are still lying to cover the truth.

The last thing I wanted to ask is about the bible. I am an atheist, I was raised catholic by my parents. I am also a transsexual. Most of my life I have resented the bible and the church because everytime you here a news story it seems negative, like homosexuality is a sin or prolife arguments, or even just inconsistancies in the bible. When I first came to read the - Bush could be the antichrist articles, I have to say that it scared me. To much of it seems to be more than coinidence should allow. I am wondering if god/jesus wanted people to believe in the bible why wouldn't they pay a visit from time to time to show us proof of their existance, rather than have people believe just on faith when their are thousands of other religons to choose from. How is anyone to know for sure which religon is right. Can anyone offer any advice, and maybe explain why the bible is the true word of god, or maybe explain what personal story led you to believe in god. Anything would be helpfull. Thanx for listening.

Anonymous said...

Sorry but George Bush is NOT the Anti-christ because Javier Solana
is! If you don't know who Solana is I suggest you look into his background and rise to become the most important, most powerful man man on the planet... a man most people have never even heard of until it's too late! Look out Israel because the Anti-christ is in your midst!
Francisco Javier Solana Madariaga (born July 14, 1942 in Madrid, Spain) is the High Representative of the Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP) and the Secretary-General of both the Council of the European Union (EU) and the Western European Union (WEU). He was a physicist who became a political minister for 13 years before serving as NATO Secretary-General 1995–99. Dr. Solana was designated to become EU Minister for Foreign Affairs in 2006, but is likely to continue in his present role while the future of the EU is decided. Find out more about the EU and the # of Mr. Solana future seat which is reserved for him. Can you guess the seat #????

Anonymous said...

Peter, i was thinking that your mother must lived through the great depression and the second world war. So maybe she was able to sense a similarity in the mood of the time somehow. I mean, if economically, we are regressing to the 20s and the age of robber barons and the days before collective bargaining and workers rights a la WallyWorld, pehaps to her it was like deja vu all over again. I'd be curious. I should ask my grandmother and see what she says - she's 91 now and might see a pattern. She did say in 2000 that for the for the first time in her life, she was smarter than the President of the US :)

Anonymous said...

Greetings

It is my first time here. I just wanted to say hi!