MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev:17: 1: And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will show unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
2: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
3: So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4: And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6: And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
7: And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carried her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8: The beast that thou saw was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
When we read the Book of Revelation we must understand how and from what perspective it was written. We have all seen books like “Revelation made easy”. Unfortunately that is what the Christian establishment would have you think. This book was not meant for everyone to understand. Yes I know it promises a blessing to who ever shall read it, Rev.1:3; but they neglect to point out that it also says to those that keep it. This book is written in a way so as to be sealed to the spiritually blind, or immature. It contains great mysteries and power. If this power got into the hands of the wrong people, it would be like putting an atom bomb in the hands of a two year old. Heb: 5:14: “But strong meat belongs to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.”
The idea that true spiritual truth is hidden to some may not be popular, but there is much scriptural basis for this. Lk: 8:10: “And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.” We also see that timing may be a factor in understanding Gods message to us. Dan: 12:4: “But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.” (Like now). Paul in 1st Corinthians 12:2 says he was caught up into the third heaven and vs. 4: “How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.” He never left the earth, but had entered the spirit. Spiritual things can not always be translated “word for word”.
When John wrote the Apocalypse, he said Rev: 1:10: “I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,” If he wrote it from the stand point of being in the spirit, does it not make sense to endeavor to understand it form the spirit?
We have heard it said that we have a left side of our brain and a right side (I am not sure which is which) One is more systematic and follows a flow of information, It is structured and ordered. It is where the math is done; sees the “real world” and has to put things into categories, and relates to the material universe, it is the Law. The other side sees images and patterns. It is creative, and sees things in pictures, and cycles. This is the side that sees into the spirit. This is the side that the book of Revelation appeals to. This explains why there seems to be many fulfillments to the verses contained in it. God is creating imagery so you can spot his hand and fulfillment.
Obviously much of its literal fulfillment has taken place with Rome, and Nero; But we see the same patterns like waves continue across the sands of time. Cycles that build until one final culmination. “Like travail upon women with child”
With this in mind, let us look back over history. How long has Satan had his grip and been in control of this world? It has been right since the beginning in the garden. How quickly people forget. God made this whole creation for man, and man gave it over to Satan. As a result all of creation is corruptible, running down and dying (The second law of thermo-dynamics). From that moment on God has been moving us toward His final plan, His Seventh Day, to bring us into His rest. As we look at the cycles and waves, they are not all exactly alike, but we see many of the same pictures. This explains why many believers and the early church would get it wrong as to the end, and the Antichrist. Through out History there have been many Antichrists. 1Jn:2:18: “Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.” We can start out with Pharaoh, the Babylonians, and Alexander the Great. Antiochus Epiphanies was the culmination in the Old Testament times. He offered a blood sacrifice of a pig in the Holy of Holies. He was prophesied of in Daniel. Then in New Testament times we have the first appearance in Judas; Most of the Caesars, especially those that fought against Christ, like Nero. Then here in this century many thought Adolph Hitler, was the Antichrist. Although he fulfilled much of what was needed to qualify he was apparently not yet the One. Now we are looking at the most chilling possibility in the person of George W. Busche. If we turn out to be incorrect again, the cycle will swing around again with more and more evil till “That Man of sin be revealed, The Son of Perdition”.
I have given a broad look at history because I want us to see the whole picture. Who and what is “This Great Whore”? She is an image of one ridding on the back of a beast. This beast is full of names of blasphemy or false gods. She is arrayed in wealth with Gold (significant of divine nature) and pearls (from the sea) and precious stones (from the dry land), full of the splendor of this world. We see an image of Grandeur. Like Christ her colors are Red (the color for man, blood) and Purple the color of royalty. Blue by the way is the color for God; it is the color of the heavens. Purple is the combination of blue and red. Christ was the combination of God = blue and Man= red giving us purple; The God Man and Royal King of Kings. It says she is sitting upon many waters. In verse 15, it tells us what those waters are. “The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” It is all the people of the world that have and are being oppressed by her ridding on their back. The kings of the earth have committed fornication with her. All the kingdoms of the world and nations and empires have been in bed with their religious systems. They use each other to control the masses. By false promises like the American dream, the deceitfulness of riches and all the other lies that have been told us through the ages they have made the people drunk with her wine. Mk: 4:19: And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
Rev.17: 2. “the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”
Again it is important to have this broad look at history because this image does. This beast has seven heads. Verse 9; “The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10: And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11: And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. Mountains are significant of Kingdoms; the kings mentioned are the representatives of those Kingdoms. The five that had fallen were: 1.Egypt, 2.Assyria, 3.Babylon, 4.Medo-Persia, and 5.Greece. “One is” 6. Rome. And the other had “not yet come” – The American Empire. This nation may have started out benign but it is now going into perdition. It has only been around a short space. Then we see the beast that was and is not being the eighth. God says “I am that I am” Satan says “I am that I am not” This eighth is the Antichrist system that fills the whole earth. It is of the seven because it grew out of them, headed by the same kinds of Antichrists.
This past summer I had the privilege of taking a trip to some of the great cities of Europe. We went to London and saw the Palace of the Queen with all its might. How ironic that right in front in the park was a poor young homeless man. Then we went on to Paris; More amazing and dazzling splendor. The Louvre and Versailles full of their treasures and mixture of Christian and Pagan occult symbolism. Next stop; Rome, The Empire and the Coliseum. The Vatican with the most incredible splendor of all. You go inside and the glint of gold is everywhere. Wealth and riches beyond your wildest dreams. And as I was awe struck the Word of the Lord came to me Rev.17:6: “And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. 7: And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel?” So remarkable where the wonders of this Great Whore, that even John marveled. When the kings of France so abused the people, they rose up and cut off their heads. These blind guides in the Vatican hide behind God.
All this wealth and power and massive edifices are all designed to intimidate and control people and blind them from the truth; to make the masses drunk with the wine of her delicacies. Every where we saw Church after Church, Dome with Obelisk; Symbols of pagan deity worship. You see the same picture right in Washington DC on the Mall, Congress on one end and the Washington Monument at the other end. This is no coincidence. When Jesus was tempted in the wilderness by the devil, Lk: 4:5: “And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, showed unto him ALL the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time (including today’s). 6: And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7: If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine”. Jesus didn’t disagree that it was Satan’s to give, but he knew Mt: 16:26: “For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” So his answer was Lk: 4:8: “And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.” This is all about building the Kingdoms of this world on the backs of the poor. It is about the worship of Mammon the God of this age at the cost of the blood sweat and tears of those that are simple.
Think about all the atrocities that have been committed through the ages in the name of Religion and Political Ideologies; All proclaiming a just and true cause; Everything from the Crusades and the Inquisitions to the fight for Democracy or Communism. Think of the suffering, starvation and despair of the dark ages. These all made richer the money changers while the saints bleed in the streets. They kept back the word of God and taught that only the Priests were able to talk to God; Thus developing a kind of Illuminati or Illuminated class. They had a MYSTERY. The common people were kept in their place by the use of guilt, keeping them bound up worrying about their sexual desires; while they were committing every kind of sexual atrocities imaginable. Several Popes were known to have kept young boys and would simply burry them when they were through with them. Mt: 23:27: “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchers, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.” They are still indulging themselves in the fat and luxuries of this world. When the new Nazi Pope was negotiated into power by George Bush, (Kings fornicating with the Whore) I would watch the Cardinals getting out of their big limos dressed in Scarlet and Purple and gold and precious stones. Then a servant would run up with an umbrella to protect His tenderness from the terrible rays of the SON. I thought to my self, “Who does she think she is? Michael Jackson?”
At the time Jesus came, the Jewish hierarchy were living well and mixing there business practices with there religion. When they unearthed the home of Caiaphas the high priest, it was clear that he was a rich man. The reason the Jews rejected Christ the first time was because he didn’t come to do their bidding. (as a note, it was not the common Jews that rejected Him, most of the early church were Jews. It was the Jewish establishment.) They wanted Him to “Restore the Kingdom to Israel” or return to the status quoi and there ruling order. They didn’t really care what He was preaching or doing, as far as they were concerned He was just a nuisance. But when He messed with their money and overturned the money changers tables, they were threatened. This is when they wanted Him killed. You should all view the film called the “Money Masters” and Part2
So who is this Great Whore of Babylon? Remember in another post I said all the religions of the world seem to have their roots in Babylon. This is why she is the Mother of Harlots. She is ALL of the organized religions of this world. She is Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, The Roman Catholic church, The right wing fundamentalist, and Denominationalism; She is the cults and Isms; She is the Secret societies and Black Arts; She is the Idols and Demon Gods from ancient times that keep coming back riding on the back of the worlds political systems. The two give power to each other. They are in bed together committing fornication. They are not flesh and blood but powers and principalities the rulers of the darkness of this world; they are spiritual wickedness in high places. Eph:6:12
We now see the whole earth subdued by her and consuming the world recourses. The blind masses worshiping at the alter of consumerism putting themselves further and further into enslavement; being bound to the love of this world Lusting for Oil to drive her machines. Rv:9:2: “And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.”(air pollution)
I know that some will think me a crazy person after reading this. But: 2Tm:1:7: “For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.”
1Cor:2:14: “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” We have come to think it is normal and the way it should be for our families to be scattered all over the place “without natural affection” to serve this Industrial Military Complex. Rv: 6:10: “And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?” Rv: 18:4: And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” 1Pt:2:9: “But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:”
The art work in this and the last post is my work, putting them together from a number of pictures. If you click on them you can see a bigger version.
112 comments:
The whore is upon us, at last!
it's 8 in the morning, I've had 5 hours sleep, there's no way My sleepy head is ready for any kind of Revelation comprehension this early...I just wanted to say, at last! what I've read so far is brilliant as usual, but Peter: you have outdone yourself with that picture.
The details are stunning, but from afar the point is still most definitely made. Sort of like Revelation, no? revealing to those who care to invest themselves into studying it? I can't wait until my workday is over and I can truely ponder on this much-anticipated post.
Peace, saw what you wrote yesterday. Bless your heart, and right on sister!
just another quick thought, I found your definitions of what the different colors mean, and what you said about blue being the color for the divine. Knowing what we do about the Nephilim, how much of a coincidence do you feel is in the term "blue blood"?
Wonderful post Peterz and the picture is fantastic!
one thing for sure is that there are so many revealing signs going on all around us, some very obvious and some not so obvious. I am going to watch Money Masters today.
excerpts from Harold Pinter's Nobel Prize Lecture; full text and video at
"http://nobelprize.org/literature/laureates/2005/pinter-lecture.html"
"The crimes of the United States have been systematic, constant, vicious,
remorseless, but very few people have actually talked about them. You have
to hand it to America. It has exercised a quite clinical manipulation of
power worldwide while masquerading as a force for universal good. It's a
brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis. I put to you that
the United States is without doubt the greatest show on the road. Brutal,
indifferent, scornful and ruthless it may be but it is also very clever. As
a salesman it is out on its own and its most saleable commodity is self
love."
and
"It's a scintillating stratagem. Language is actually employed to keep
thought at bay. The words 'the American people' provide a truly voluptuous
cushion of reassurance. You don't need to think. Just lie back on the
cushion. The cushion may be suffocating your intelligence and your critical
faculties but it's very comfortable"
and
"Many thousands, if not millions, of people in the United States itself are
demonstrably sickened, shamed and angered by their government's actions, but
as things stand they are not a coherent political force - yet. But the
anxiety, uncertainty and fear which we can see growing daily in the United
States is unlikely to diminish."
Amen, Peter. And that picture really is impressive. I also found Pinter's speech to be really, in a word, harrowing, and surprised it didn't receive more mainstream media attention, even if it was just to bash him. To me his words were such a clear and strong indictment on our country, our system, and above all, our Great Deception. The empty rhetoric that most of us in this country drink from the trough every day of our lives.
This country was never really a land of "freedom" or "democracy" or "tolerance" or "values" or "work ethic" or any other positive label we have given ourselves and told the world we were going to set an example for.
America is just been the latest of the empires to exploit the poor for the good of the rich, like you articulated, and the system that is set up is now worldwide in scope and is very efficient at accomplishing its goal. The advancements that man has made in knowledge and science have NOT been accompanied by any development in spirit or nature. The essence of the great whore I think is the glorification of all things worldly, instead of the glorification of God. And boy aren't we in those times right now. The precious gold, the oil, the cash, the mansions, the palaces, the domes, the towers, the machines of destruction, the superweapons, the corporate conglomerates, the mighty free market economy. It permeates the world.
Considering the record-breaking distasters the world has witnessed in the past 365 day, it doesn't seem like our planetary losing streak will end any time soon. 2006 is really just a number. Change takes place day by day. Never lose hope, no matter how bleak our surroundings become. Remember, this is temporary. Help is on the way, and even here with us now.
So true young brother. Our job is to remain watchful and hopeful. I'm ready.
My daughter had a strange thought the other day. She said, "Ew, mom, next year there will be 6-6-06." She's right. Probably will be insignificant; but just the same kinda creepy.
But our Lord has it all under control anyway no matter what. I'm still amazed at the people who I talk to that think the end of this system of things will never happen in their life time. I'm hoping they are wrong. Time will tell and in the mean time I pray for strength and understanding.
One of your best posts yet, PeterZ. He keeps using you in ways that are truly amazing. I know it's God because you can feel Him when you read your posts. Thank you and may He continue to Bless you so we can share in His glory.
Susanne
I agree shauna, and it is becoming clear to more people that much of US and world policy is and has been set by how that policy would effect the all mighty worldly God--money, instead of how that policy would effect God's creation--people.
Jesus saw this when he walked the earth, and preached in no uncertain terms that people can't serve two masters. He could not have been more clear how you can't serve God and serve Mammon, but sadly his message fell on ears that didn't want to hear it. Many didn't hear it then and many sure don't hear it now.
Great post, peter!
I would like to help everybody take a few minutes out to breathe and relax in the Spirit.
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Blessings to all.
Kevin T.
Peterz, saw your latest quote (on Hachett's blog). Pardon my frustration. I'm perfectly willing to make a fool of myself in defense of my savior. The opinions of others no longer phase me. I find it incredibly ironic that Christ himself clarifies, and expounds on Tom's stance. Tom's problem isn't saying that god is in us, and we are in God, it's taking the crucial ingrediant of Christ out of the recipe for enlightenment.
What is required of the native in Africa who has never heard of Christ is God's business. He judges as he will. I never meant to intervene on God's holy judgement.
However I cannot make myself believe that people can be exposed to the truth of Yeshua (beyond the fundamental veil i.e. be commenting on Stephen's blog) and still say they have a more perfect plan without having repercussions. Christ is crucial, and the Only thing that bridges the gap between God and Man. Even if that saves people who never even knew he sacrificed his life for them. What better example of love than that?! To die willingly to save people who would themselves live and die never knowing the suffering you endured on their behalf. Truely, greater love has no man than this: that he lay down his own life for his friends.
Those who are "of God" even if they are not aware of Christ, will be friends of Christ in heaven. right? but they claim it doesn't matter. It matters to them. They see the truth yet still refuse it. I can't help but feel this is putting their souls in jeopardy (the fundamentalist within begins to show through) I can only pray they see the truth at this point. I'm done making an ass out of myself, at least with this issue. Nothing I can say will help at this point. They are too busy looking down on my sheltered narrow dogmatic and unenlightened youthful perspective.
Amen to that Peace
Peace, fascinating you should chose Ghandi to quote. Three hours ago I dropped the latest post on my blog. Stop on by and you will understand the joke....
Beautiful song, by the way LP.
It sure seems like something is heating up; can feel it in my soul.
Sounds like we (US and Israel) will be at war with Iran by March, 2006. Imagine.
Bush is closing the borders at the same time he is cracking down on our constitution - coincidence? I think not. Nothing happens coincidentally with this administration.
I wonder how long it will take to round us all up and what they'll do with us when they do. Seems like another world we are living in compared to just 6-7 years ago. I know how bad it's going to get, but just the same, like I've said before, I'm still surprised at how fast.
Do you wonder what your file says about you, my fellow enemy combatants?
Put on your armour of God; we're going to need it more than ever.
Susanne
Amen Susanne.
Were you the one who posted the "modern prophecy" above?
Did not expect to read that.
I don't know if that's what God's prophets are saying these days, or if it's a brilliant deception.
But reading the above seriously gave me chills...deep chills. Identify yourself, anonymous! How did you find that "Vision of Gitmo". Don't play it coy, now! This is a most interesting developement.
Young Brother,
No, it wasn't me who posted the "modern prophecy"; and reading it gave me the chills, also, because the world was so taken aback by Hitler and this antichrist is going to make him look like an amateur. Our God is still in control though and that gives me such a renewed feeling of strength and encouragement that I feel like I am ready for anything.
I admire your wisdom, young brother. I truly can see that He is inspiring each one of us. I also find comfort in PeterZ's words all the time.
Susanne
I believe the poster above identified himself from "The Watchman" or that was taken from that page.
These are all things I have been saying. I agree with his post. Very powerful and well said. Jesus is as a refiners fire.
Mal:4:1: For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
2: But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
3: And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of hosts.
thank you for that, Peace
I am blessed by this little flock and your shepherd, Peter.
Please always pray that you may be found worthy to escape the trials that are coming AND DO NOT FEAR!
"For God has not given us the spirit of fear, but of power and a sound mind."
Your dedication and devotion to follow the Lamb wherever He goes will be your best and most powerful asset.
Do not become excite-able or alarmist, but stay close to God.
We have nothing to fear, even in fearful times.
Anonymous -
I used to become excitable and somewhat alarmed when I first started realizing what was happening in 2000, but since then a calmness that can only come from our Lord has replaced it.
I used to want to keep quiet for fear of being labeled a lunatic, but lately I don't feel that restraint and I am ready to stand up and tell the world (though it won't listen)and suffer whatever consequences may come because of it. I'm ready to be a martyr for Jesus because He is the only thing that truly matters.
I find watching the Bible unfold before our eyes reassuring and comforting and that erases all my fears. A renewed strength is boiling in my veins and I cannot wait to see where He takes me. He is so AMAZING I am completely awestruck.
You are so right. "We have nothing to fear, even in fearful times."
May God continue to bless us all.
Susanne
amen and AMEN!!
From: Watchman
Susanne,
It is good that you have made yourself ready to even be a martyr for Yahshua, but Yashua would like for you NOT to be a martyr and stand and be a living witness for Him.
It is Yahshua who said, "Pray that you would be found worthy to ESCAPE the trials to come."
Martyrdom should be the last thing on your mind. Yahweh needs Christians (Yahudim) ALIVE! How else can His Word be spread?
There will be plenty of martyrs in the coming days. Do your best to not be one of them.
Recall His word in Psalm 91:
He that dwells in the secret place of the Most High, shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty...A thousand may fall at my side, ten thousand at my right hand, but it shall not come near you!
You are already a martyr. You have died to self for the sake of Yahshua and His Kingdom.
Watchman
http://www.watchmanreport.com
Watcher, you are right that the time we have while still alive should be used for the simple and active work of sharing and living the good news that we as a body are coming to understand.
Susanne, I have to say that I applaud your faith, and I agree with you 100%.
For what we do on Earth does make a difference, but we will all die at some point, and the more we defiantly live for the true God without a self preserving and timid nature, the more at risk we will become.
I liken what I think we will go through with Peter walking on the rough waters.
As long as we keep our minds eye on Christ (as you are doing) we cannot fail, even if our flesh be put to death, it would be put to death for the namesake and likeness of our eternal savior! (what greater love?!)
Now I would like to point out that I am not advising anyone here to "drink the koolaid" It would be a terrible waste of our spiritual potential to rush into death,
but also do not fear death.
"Oh death, where is thy victory? Oh death, where is thy sting? But thanks be to God! who gives us our victory through the Lord Jesus Christ" (or Yeshua)
Drinking the koolaid is bad
religious suicide bombing is bad,
but self preservation is spiritual suicide
"He who would save his life shall lose it, but he who will lose his life for My sake (Yeshua's) shall save it!"
and you shall have life and have it more abundantly, however none of us should forget the command to take up our cross and follow Christ.
Thanks Young Brother and Watchman,
I am not ready to die (but I would for Jesus) and I would rather be a living testimony to His Word, but if being a living testimony for Him would cause my death, I am ready for that. That is what I was trying to convey. I am not scared about anything that may be coming our way because we follow and trust Him, but instead feel empowered by it and ready for it. (This being a new development over just the past few weeks). This has got to come from Him because I have never felt this way before. He is my rock and where my strength is coming from (the no fear feeling) and this I know for sure more than I know anything else. I was so seriously considering moving to Canada to get out of the thick of it for fear for my children just a few months ago, but now, I do not sense that anxiety about the current situation in the U.S. anymore and just know that I am ready to stand up for Him in any way possible to bring Him glory and if that brings me death, I'm ready for that also. No fear. It's wonderful and it's Him.
Many thanks for listening and sharing; it is priceless to me and a blessing to be able to share these thoughts and feelings with like minds as I still do not know anyone close to me who I can talk to who sees it also. Even though I always have my Savior, this makes it less lonely. I used to think I was imagining how close we were getting and how bad it was getting so fast, but that doubt has also been replaced with a renewed feeling of understanding, courage and strength, and that's coming from Jesus also.
I'm not as eloquent as most of you, but it is still a treasure to have somewhere to express myself about these days and times we are in together. Thanks again!
Love,
Susanne
Watchman,
Great site. Really enjoyed it. A question, though. I believe there is one antichrist (A world leader) that is controlled by Satan (or indwelt), and it seems as though your site portrays an antichrist system of things more than one figure. Did I interpret incorrectly?
PeterZ, one figure of antichrist or a system of antichrist?
Susanne (again)!
Also, on a roll here - it sounds like Bush's approval ratings are going up because people are believing his lie about his lie. That intelligence never expressed their reserve about WMD's to his administration (can he say Joe Wilson/Valarie Plame?) While I used to be shocked, dismayed and surprised at current situations, now things seem more on the comical side. Maybe it's just that no fear feeling about things any more and more about knowing they're going down soon anyway (well, relatively soon anyway!)
Susanne
Susan and Watchman...
First let me say how delighted I am to have you both participating in our site, as I believe you are of the spirit of truth.
My feeling about the Antichrist is somewhat open, I have always believed that it could be fulfilled by a body of people, but tend to believe that their will be a single embodiment of evil whom we will see as the Antichrist. Watchman has given us the scriptures that refer to the word Antichrist, but we see in
2Thes:2:3: "Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that MAN of sin be revealed, THE SON of perdition;" (this is singular) This would seem to me to be speaking of the Antichrist. One man, who is The SON of Perdition. Just as their is ONE Christ but a many memberd body, even so with the Antichrist, Satan's counterfeit, a body of people with its head the embodiment of Evil. I am not married to this, and if God chooses to fulfill it just as a body of people, that is ok with me.What is important is that our eye is on Christ and we walk in truth, then we will and do see their evil designs. We are aware that there are many antichrists that are surrounding GW Bush, and as I said in my post here, if we are wrong about Bush, the cycle will still be moving to Gods fulfillment. We are dependant on the spirit of truth, not just the doctrine.
ummm watchmen is that some sort of scripture you wrote yourself?
I am lost here. You're going to have to quit being so darn mysterious because it is deterring from your message.
I would just like to point out once again, that the already written down scriptures are all we will need in the "inspired word of God" department.
No need to be claiming that God is speaking new doctrine and new truth through you.
What we are allowed, encouraged and ordered to do is to study the existing scriptures, and learn how to Understand them.
The spirit of truth is the spirit of understanding...
New doctrine is a big "no no" (not sure where though) But those will will add to or remove from the existing scriptures are placing themselves in a most dire and serious spiritual Jeopardy. (I think John of Patmos wrote that in Revelation)
I only have my personal experiences as defense of this stance...and I wont get into "how" here (why I have my blog)
But I strongly feel that my warning here is the truth. Don't let pride currupt you. Please. Your website and thoughts are amazing, but the slightest varience from the true message is a deadly poison. So don't shut yourself off by assurance. We all need to approach this amazing journey with a perspective of humility (Susanne, bless your humble heart...I have to say I love your contributions) and we need to be honest with ourselves that even though we are growing in the truth, even though we have prophecy and the Holy Spirit to guide us, we are surrounded in the darkness of the world, and the veil has yet to be fully lifted. In some ways, even now we still "see through a glass darkly" and that helps to reinforce and maintain the crucial trait of humility.
"Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path"
The ancient Hebrews had small oil lamps that they would fasten to their feet when they were required to travel at night As you know, candle light is nothing like a flashlight, and so in order to see the step ahead of them, they would have to have that light as close to the road as possible.
So watcher, take this journey one step at a time, try not to get ahead of yourself (I know how eager you are, believe me) and have faith that God will guide you and protect you every step of the way on this straight and narrow path.
By the blessing of the Holy spirit, truth is flowing through us, and truth is also within us
But Truth is not Of us. God is the source of all things, and all truth. At best we can only hope to be vessles of his work. But if we ask this of him, he will not deny us.
Amen!
My brother Watcher, Let us understand this, It is not "getting into disputing" to discuss differing opinions concerning interpretations of scripture. This is how we can often discern what the truth is.
Also just because you have made a statement concerning the King of the North with no Biblical basis,or back up, does not make it the final word. The prophecy you shared we thank you for, I hope all who read it will lay it on the alter of God and see what God proves of it. I hope I have in no way insulted you, and I speak in the humility of one that would look after the well being of Gods sheep.Blessing and Honor and Glory and Power be unto Him that sitteth upon the Throne and Unto the Lamb. Also I pray all who visit this site will be blessed and fed. Amen
I just want to clarify that I was saying Amen in the post above to that prophecy from 1923. I prayed and I felt the words rang true. Obviously now at the end days just like the Lord warned there are going to be several false prophets and many antichrists, because at this point Satan is desperate. He knows Christ rose on the third day, just like his 1000 year kingdom is soon to rise right now in the 3rd millenium. Satan is desperate, but also more powerful now and that is just because God has allowed him to become more powerful because there will be judgement on the Christian Church and of the Lord's people who have rejected Him.
I think one more simple way to discern the true Christian soldiers from false is how the person's outlook of the Rapture is. Those that want a secret Rapture and be whisked away from trouble and want to enjoy their worldly goods now and then enjoy salvation without any suffering basically have been seduced by that heresy. It is through our suffering spiritually that we can be washed clean and be an appropriate bride for the bridegroom Christ.
The people that want their worldly riches and think because they outwardly may not show wickedness they will quickly, painlessly, and easily be taken up to the Lord's salvation are gravely mistaken. You can see when is is put like that how Revelation is so correct in describing the Christian Church now as the great whore. You can't serve two masters, we "understand" that, but still chose not to take that message into our hearts and actions. Many Christians wanted to whore ourselves out and then still present themselves to Christ as a virgin, and have him whisk them away like a fooled bridegroom. But Christ is not a fooled bridegroom, and we must truly repent for our spoiledness and not present ourselves as virginal and pure. Many can wear the mask of being virginal and pure in spirit, such as our president, and have been deceived by the fact that the mask works so well here on earth that maybe it would work on God's judgement. Once again, the endpoint of deceit is that you will deceive yourself, and the Illuminati including Bush are doing that very thing right now.
And America and its global system partners are doing the same thing. Supporters of America and its NWO partners have the blood of over 100,000 innocent lives on their hands, and that's just if you look at deaths from overt actions. Every day that the corrupt, rich, evil leaders of this nation are allowed to stay in power (on both sides of the aisle) just adds more crimes that this Beast must be judged for. And every day that the Christian church complies with the America/UK/NWO atrocities (riding the Beast) will only make it more painful when the Beast who hates Christianity turns on the whore.
I discern that it will go down like this: As escalations of war and terror go on, including more revelations of all the wickedness being perpetrated by America/UK, there will be a point when more people will start to say that established religion is bad all around.
"Enlightened" leaders will come out and say you know what, yes, all fundamental religious people are violent and stupid and work against civilization and we are tired of it. and we won't tolerate it any more. In the spirit of tolerance and understanding, the world will now look to "universal" principles instead of religion and profess its all the same, the good parts of all religions and philosophies. They will tout that moving to universal principles will be a great step for mankind because that will cause there to be an end of all wars on the Earth. They will claim that love of money isn't the root of all evil, but that trust in God(s) is the root of all evil. They will promote trust in Man, and the message will be received well because the world will be numb with the horrors of the religious world war that we are in the midst of right now.
And much of the world will accept this message, and the Global War on Terrorism will be turned into the Global War on Religion, against "radical" Muslims, Christians, Jews, etc. The war will be in the media as well as military action (lethal and non-lethal), like the camps that have secretly been set up and planned for here in America. And people will look at disdain on those of us resisting having microchips placed, saying that our resistance must be a sign that we are still fooled by phony myths of the mark of the beast. The elite and people in the media will scoff at people who take more stock in a dream-like fantastical book of the Bible instead of science and progress. And there will be added to those chips incentives, such as only being able to buy and sell goods with it, as a means of hoping to turn around the poor backward religious folk. And it will work on many. But we will stay strong and trust in the Lord and he will take us through the 42 months of this.
By the 42 months I'm talking about from when there is some kind of declaration that there is a new global war on religion. It may be called Global War on Extremism. Or religious fascism, or fundamentalism, whatever buzz word they want to use. But it will really be a declaration of war by the world government on God. And that will really be when the sh*t hits the fan.
Watcher, all I meant is that by mysteriously cutting and pasing the prophecies of others, rather than speaking your own mind, you were confusing me. No links, no personal summery (except a sentence before the prophetic deluge)
Just BAM. Now I know you want to help in the common purpose of spreading the truth, I know your intentions are the very best, but your method of approach is vastly different to the one I am accustomed to here.
I'm glad you have spoken your mind as well, but at first you really caught me off guard.
And I am guilty as charged for responding to the 1923 comment without actually reading it at first (powerful stuff by the way).
the notion, the possibility that new scriptures inspired by God were written to the church as recently as 1923 pushed a big red REJECT button inside I have always had.
I recognise that my reactionary rejection of that possibility may very well be a lifelong character flaw that I am going to have to deal with. I realise that all things are possible with God.
I still believe that the most verifiable, undeniable truths that we can share with the general public are found within the accepted scriptures. Thanks be to God for that lifeline to reason.
God is the God of now, always has been, always will be. So please pardon my prejudice.
You said you don't want to bring attention to yourself. You said you don't want to lift yourself above other men
Your mysterious first posts did exactly that to me. They brought my attention to you, and they made me think that you believed you were higher, better and more enlightened than your average Joe.
The words you shared carried the weight of prophecy, but these were not your prophecies(except for the "King of the north isn't the same as the antichrist" message).
Why not make the facts of who said what and when perfectly clear from the get-go at the beginning of your posts in order to avoid that misunderstanding?
Please don't be angry with what I've said. I'm not calling you a liar, I am only pointing out the reason for my initial confusion and heated reactions.
Watchman, keep spreading your message and providing information and guidance on your website. For me, everything has rang true when I received it and prayed on it.
Thank you watchman, and keep up the good fight!
Amen watchman. I figured something like that was the case
And you are right, the verse numbers enraged me before I even read the words.
I'm astounded that the Gitmo prophecy actually was you, and I'm chewing on my own foot right now
This really is an interesting developement.
Thank you for overcoming my prejudice with patience.
Hello everyone, I first want to say that I have been to Watchman's site and find everything "Mind blowing" and the part about the Beast possibly referring to the former Nazzism and all that Hitler stood for, also about the mortal head wound. It all is something I am praying over and it sure sounds like it fits! The article there on pat Robertson gives me the shivers too, he is a satanic liar. I have no doubt that Bushco is far more evil than so many people are aware and I wonder just what all it will take to wake the People up. I think it is in New Mexico that over 400 pounds of explosives were stolen, (About the same amount that was used to blow up the oklahoma City Bldgs.)I have seen it on TV yesterday and today. This maybe an event waiting to happen.
I can't just run up to my family and tell them Bush is the AntiChrist and the world is gonna end soon. I am trying to talk to them with bits and pieces and I print out articles off my computer for them to read. But they can see what Bush says and does is two different things, just that they aren't ready to head for the hills yet. My older Sister and some other family members frequently emails me these "Pass on" (Hot potatoe Mail)-Bush jokes and sure, we can laugh about this now and then but I reply back to her with Links to sites with information and try to inform her just how SERIOUS everything is.
I know they think Im over reacting sometimes and perhaps going off my rocker! I think it was Peterz that said you have to inform people gradually and give them little bites at a time. But it now appears we have very little time.
more great words of truth in this time of craziness. Sometimes it's needed to get angry with the blind, I feel. But over all, we should be consumed in Peace. For we have the victory already, in Christ. We know how the story ends, and yes it gets violent, yes it gets messy, but we have Won
I hope I won't get killed for this, but...you have an awesome site. I enjoyed myself as I scrolled down to the last part of this page(and more...). You have research what I would never had expected. I shall take into caution when that certain bad moment of humanity will come...I really wish it would not come though...
In my post about the wound to the head we speculated about a few interpretations concerning the wound of the little horn. I want to say that what The Watcher has shared about Nazism being reborn here in America is from the Lord and also certainly applies to that scripture in Rev.
To the watchman:
I have been following Peter's blog for the last 2 years. I dont post much I generally just read & try to learn as much as I can. When I first came here I questioned Peter's insight on these things but as Peter told me himself to not trust him but to trust in God & in time found him to be very honest & accurate in what he was saying. For the past 10 years I have been telling people that this country was facist & that it would not be long before we would be just like nazi Germany & how the bankers control our govt through the federal reserve & not the other way around like they portray it to be. Up to this point I have been praying for guidence & strength for what I must do in the times to come & I must admit reading your blog was the answer to my prayers. Thank You very much & may God bless you though I belive he already has.
Kyle
Hello everyone,
I have been reading in Jeremiah and was wondering if it's possible that Bush is Nebuchadrezzar? (Neb-u-chad-rez-zar. King of Babylon.
Jeremiah 50 :17 (I have the King James Version) I've Been reading all about Babylon and it's final days and it sure does sound like America.
To the anonymous heckler, I have no need to prove anything to you. The Lord shall be my judge. If you were truly seeking the truth, you will find it.
Wow! You are so on this ! as I am!
Have you read the book of Enoch?
I have a feeling Bush is one of the decendants of 200 fallen angels.
He may not be THE Antichrist but, he is evil and I haven't trusted him from day one !Then again he maybe, he sure feels and acts in contridiction and only seems to have one agenda on his plate .
I have met him in person At "ground zero" he shook my dogs paw I got a weird creepy feeling while he was touching my dog...
We may Not all agree on politics or on Religion Cause I truely belive God is a diamond with many facets and all of us are trying to obtain Oneness with the Devine. But, something is happening and He-Bush is a Puppet! Just who is pulling his strings ?
And IS Christ already here watching and just waiting for this to play out?
what about the NEXT Pope Not this one the next one ?
you keep doing what your doing and maybe someone will understand we are not incontrol of the world's mind set but, all theses books and ideas are being placed in our way to change our WHOLE mind set.. Try this on too What if all this violence and disrest is in the hot spots because the hate and emotions of Man are feeding something not of this World?
noone really knows when the End is coming and If it is literal or is it just a new evuloution, that we either all accept and then will ascend to the next level or will it be the END of TIMES as we KNOW IT?
I belive all the powers in the Nation have something to do with how we will handle it .......
And most of all to all you angry people who wrote hurtful things to this young man You just don't get it GOD IS LOVE UNCONDTIONAL
LOVE and oh yeah FREEWILL
What if HE is Jesus ?
Think about all the nasty things you said ! Do you really know? Angels walk among us why not Jesus He did more than once before didn't he?
And You call your self what? Christians? aaaaa huhhh thats what i thought...
Sulis
Thanks Watchman. I don't claim to know the scriptures too well, but since 911 & Bush. Also Stephen's and Peterz and your Site, I have been studying the scriptures more. Right now I have some Jehovah Witnesses coming to my door about once a month or so, and I usually do talk to them and they are nice people, but they don't seem to get too political and don't want to talk much on Bush and today's government. I would love to tell them what I have been learning through Peterz,Watchman, and Stephen's site and with the given bible verses. I would like to hear how they respond. I have heard that the Jehovah's got started by (And I can't think of his name) But he was connected with the Illuminati. These Jehovah Witnesses that comes to my door tells me that this earth won't actually be Literally destroyed, but after all the destruction when Jesus does return that ALL the damage will reverse itself all over the earth , Pollution will be gone, all plagues, diseases,no more smog, no more crime, no more greed, and all will be once again perfect as it was originally before Adam and Eve sinned. The Earth will be as it was meant to be. As far as Man is concerned (By these people that visits me) its only a few that actually gets to go to Heaven, the majority will inherit the earth, in which Jesus in ruler for one thousand years before he does return to Heaven,those who choose to follow God's will shall get to live here on the New Earth, those who won't will be returned to dust.The Jehovah's don't talk much on Hell. I don't go to Church currently anymore because I have never known which one I should go to I have been to lots of denominations, and now knowing that so many are being corrupted by this system we have, I am reading my bible and praying for guidance and strength right here at home. I also give God thanks for my being sober now soon 13 yrs, and I know that is one of his blessings upon me.
Kevin G,
Way to go! 13 years. I am proud of you.
Keep searching (everywhere, even with the witnesses) and He will show you the truth.
I do not attend my church (Lutheran) anymore for about 6 months now. I got past the Pastor having many political signs in his yard at election time for a while by telling myself that it was still God's house and it didn't matter. But it did. My husband says that it is his right, but I don't think so. With his position of shepherding people, he can vote for who he wants to vote for without influencing his congregation.
I had one pastor tell me that it is the way the trend is going in the United States that "these people" are infiltrating the churches and congregating there. I guess they can have it. My Bible is my heart and I don't need to go to church for others to see my christianity, because I know my spirit as Jesus does. This is all I count on now these days.
Stay focused on Him Always,
Susanne
Kevin G,
Keep up the good work - 13 years. That is commendable.
I no longer attend church (I'm Lutheran)and I trust that Jesus knows my spirit anyway and that's all that is important anyway. The pastor had many political signs in his parsonage yard at election time and I got past is for a while telling myself it was still God's House, but I really don't feel that way. Church and State should be separated, shouldn't they?
Susanne
PeterZ,
Sorry about the double post; I thought the first one disappeared.
Whatever God has ordained, whether it be a system of evil or a central figure, as we had discussed, He will show us when we need to know. I think we should leave most of the details to God (who has them ALL under control)and keep searching with an open heart about everything.
To Peace,
I have heard about RFIDs in our paper money from numerous places. I haven't tried putting any in the microwave because I don't have any to spare, but I heard somewhere that banks will reimburse you but I don't know that to be factual (maybe I'll call the bank first and ask). I would like to know. Just think - you could never escape to anywhere if you had (and you would have to have) $20 bucks on you, without being able to be tracked. I have wondered if this is why they reformated and printed new bills. Not because of counterfieting like they told us.
I seen somebody, somewhere mentioning that it's not too late to stop "things" the way they are going; let's impeach Bush. My thought is that like Bush said, "God is the author of this war." If we humans think that we can change what God has spoken to be, by electing another human or getting rid of one, we are missing the point (as usual).
Thanks for listening and still many thanks for this site.
Susanne
Watchman,
Isn't it beyond repentence also? Might cause more mercy, perhaps, as He is merciful, but I don't think things are retrievable at this point - could be wrong, done that before once or twice before.
Just a thought.
Susanne
Watchman,
Very, very interesting. Thank you for that. I call Him by his proper name now (and I get chills). How powerful He is. I feel anger at how I have been deceived for so long.
I'm glad you're here.
I'm glad to know His name. I am in awe of His patience. You would think He would be so frustrated with us that He would have destroyed us long ago. (deservedly so). I had always known that name but I thought it was the Hebrew pronunciation (which it is), but not being Hebrew I didn't think it mattered. Now I see it does. Thanks again.
Keep spreading the truth.
Susanne
Watchman,
Could you give precise pronunciations, please? Now that I know His real name I don't want to mispronounce it.
Thanks,
Susanne
Thank you, Watchman.
Susanne
Watchman,
You don't know how much I would like to think I'm being picked for the newbie team. Could it really be possible? Are these the people that can see what is going on? So many people seem blinded and the wilderness is becoming more preferrable because of the ignorance.
I know, I know, nobody knows but Yahshua, but how much time do you suppose is left? I give it 3-7 years (if that).
I know I am ready for an end to this system of things; I'm just not real sure about being ready for the rest of it, but He will make me ready I'm sure of it.
Really enjoyed your football post. How creative and intelligent.
Sign me up for the newbie team!
Let's hope for a Happy New Year in faith and understanding.
Susanne
Watchman,
So, to make sure I have this right, you're saying that Yashua was the author of "The Big Game". You started typing and you wrote it for Him? I know He is always close but to imagine that He is that close, to be telling us that He will be using His new church to fight Satan gives me such awe, strength and wonder I can't tell you.
What an interesting year it's going to be. Surely glad I'm on His side. I can't stand emerods!
So incredibly AMAZING is He and we haven't seen it all yet. Show me more!
Not gonna address the time frame, are ya? That's ok. Just guess work anyway, right? I am just anxious to be with Him.
Susanne
Watchman,
I must say I do much prefer His real name, Yashua (it's beautiful), but really, doesn't Jesus mean the same thing in a different language? Are we going to be held responsible for calling him by name in our language? I understand that it may be a pagan-given name (which would be bad), but translations can't be bad, can they? I don't like to think I have been offending my savior for years by calling Him a name from a translation.
Susanne
Watchman,
I got the point; very well taken. I find your urgency refreshing as usually it is mere complacency that abounds.
I fully comprehend the might and power behind the name as I also understand the peaceful, caring and loving nature of Yahshua.
I'm like a child first discovering there's more to the gift that I already thought was complete and perfect and now it's even better.
And it is pleasing to my ear, thank you. And thank you for teaching me. I hope you continue.
Again, I appreciate your urgency. We do need to wake up. But I don't know what else to do (I have been at that state of emergency), and now I watch, listen, pray for strength, understanding, wisdom and for Him to use me when He needs me for anything and in the meantime I try and talk to as many people as I can but there's a deaf ear and people think I'm half cracked, so here I am in the wilderness with my Savior. Do you have any other suggestions? I am open to anything for His glory.
Truly,
Susanne
Watchman UYpi are a blessing toour group. You make me laugh, and understand things I had not much considered.
Your points about the name Yashua are heavy and impacting. I'm still digesting over here.
Just wanted to say thank you everyone for keeping the discussion going forward in the spirit of truth.
I have a new post regarding the Christmas truce of 1914 in my blog, but am captivated by the lively discussion right here.
Thank you all, Bless you all
Praise Yashua! (chills spill when I say the right name)
Watchman, I loved your football post. That is a classic analogy, and right on the money once again.
For the record, my own sister is positive that I am a "tool of the Devil" I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been receiving these insults so far, and you'd better believe there are more insults to come.
Thanks be to God who gives us the victory!!
YB,
I too have been hated and people believe that I am a tool of the Devil.
Do not give up, Kevin and we will defeat the enemy by the power of his name.
Watchman is a blessing to us all, we love you Watcher!
Great post PeterZ.
Susan, please be careful of jumping on anything too quick. I have remained faily silent through most of these discussions. That does not mean I endorse all of what has been said.
To Watchman:
I know you must have been to Hanchett's blog what do you think about it?
PeterZ,
I was very aware of your silence. As maybe you are mine now. I guess I was taking your advice ahead of time. I know you always give good advice. I've been researching some and searching with prayer. Still am.
Powerful stuff.
Watchman,
I took your advice and read your post about Left Behind by the Left Behind Series and that light went on. I have been praying for mercy that my family not be separated from each other (there are four of us) when worst comes to worst, but now I am asking for that I be found worthy in some small way to be protected. I understand now how deeply the false teachings reach and for right, wrong or otherwise, has relieved me of my guilt for not attending church over the past 6-8 months. But I am puzzled about is if most (all) churches are houses of iniquity (and I can see how they could be), how did I feel close to God when I attended. He can still be there with me, of course, but would He enter a house of iniquity? Did I just imagine I felt closer? Any thoughts?
Susanne
Genesis 1:12-16
1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Teacher,
This is a problem that always bothers me.
If "a day is as a thousand years" to Yahweh.
How did all those plants and grass and trees that were made on the third "day" thousand years, survive without sunlight to power their photosynthetic processes.
May the Way the Truth and the Light Bless you.
Peace,
You are really adding to the confusion.
Did God have to make the sun twice?
Anonymous... First let me say, I hope you are asking because you are sincerely seeking an answer.
I will presume you really are. In your wondering how plants could survive for a thousand years, you are making two mistakes.First you are thinking as a mortal man. If God could create the heavens and the earth, what is it to Him to keep them alive for a thousand or ten thousand years. Mk:10:27:" And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible." Heb:1:3: "upholding all things by the word of his power,".
The second problem is you are presuming that we are talking about a thousand year time frame, where in this case He could very well be talking about a 24 hour day. It does speak of evening and morning. The reference to " A day is with the Lord as a thousand years" I believe has to do with Gods dealing with History. Please read my post about "What Day is It" (March 8)
Why would God make plants before He made the light that would feed them?
Also, did God create time, or did man?
How did tis all come about?
Peace, I just wanted to say that by pointing out the verses preceding Genisis 1:12-19 you helped to guide us towards a clarification of the matter. You showed us the path in that issue, but it was up to Anon to read the scripture, to listen to you, and to be open to answers.
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make 'im drink"
YB,
You are well advised to take your own advice, after that show you put on with The Watchman.
Why , if God was the life giving light, did He need to make the Sun. Are you suggesting that God was no longer around to provide His own personal light?
Peace,
Just because a question is answered,it does not mean that it is the correct answer. Does having a correct answer matter to you? Should I just swallow any pill that is thrust into my face?
PeterZ,
Is there any biblical reference regarding Israel's leader in the end times? I wonder what will happen now to Bush's "peace plan" now that Sharon is ill.
Susanne
Watchman,
I can completely understanding not enjoying the calling, but at the same time aren't you thrilled to be such a big part of it? I think you should be honored.
What implications are there going to be when Ariel Sharon passes away? Any thoughts?
Don't ever get discouraged by the tasks Yahshua gives you.
I am reading the book of Isiah as you suggested. I have read it before, but a refresher is always a good thing. I find it kind of difficult this time around also. I continue to pray for wisdom.
Susanne
Susanne
Thank You Peace you are absolutely correct. Her concerns are true. There is a stench here.
Susanne, You will know the false prophets by the fruits they bear.
Mt:7:15: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. None of the prophets of God were self proclaimed, They were of the school of the prophets and were recognized by Israel. What we have here is a lone wolf, who has come in to ensnare and divide the flock of God. Jn:5:31:" If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true." We know His authority because He says so. The real truth in God can be had in the simplicity of Loving your neighbor. Although he is using truth to divert you, be careful. What he is doing is instilling fear and creating a reliance on his guidance.
Mt:16:25:" For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it." Yes we are to be preparing for these last days to be "Hid in Christ" but that means to be developing the "Fruit of The Spirit" Gal:5:22: "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith."
We must guard against our nature to want to have information that may be esoteric and lead us to spiritual arrogance and pride. 2Tm:4:3: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;" I used to say we can be so spiritually minded that we are no earthly good.
He recommended you read Jeremiah, but I would recommend that you read 1 Cor:13.
I have written three emails to The Watchman asking him for clarification on vital issues, and he has scuffed them off and considered them beneath him to answer me.
I will cut and paste part of my questions to him here....
Let me say first, I also take my calling very seriously. I know God has called me as a teacher and shepherd. I am called to heard the sheep together, and protect them from the enemy the devil that roams about seeking to devour. 1Pt:5:8: Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: ( I am not accusing you of being the devil)
When I made what I thought was a well thought and well studied point, instead of receiving an explanation, or another side; I was personally attacked and accused of being used by the devil to bring division to His body.I do believe that Truth is important, and I will stand up for it. Jesus also brought division.
Let me list my concerns for you, and hopefully you can reply with what you believe, if we can agree, than we can hopefully continue to walk together. If not than we can pray for one another.
1) I have no problem with the idea God used some of Joseph's genetic make up, I don't happen to agree with that, but I agree that is not important in our salvation. What I do find important is what that means. Do you believe that The father and the son are one and the same being, that Jesus blood was eternal and not temporal, so that when it was shed, it covered all of time.That He was not created, but preexisted from all eternity with the father and is coequal with him? One God.
2) I am uncomfortable with your constant distinction between the father whom you call Yahweh, and the Son. The name Yahweh does not exist. All we know is the symbol of the tetragramaton. YHWH. I realize that you feel that God has showed this to you, but that does not make this satisfactory for me. I need to know with a Biblical conformation. In Acts:4:12: Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.(the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified) That name is the only name under heaven that is given. You have also called that name into question. I do feel though that there may be some truth in what you have taught concerning the name Jeshua. I am not one that jumps too quick I am still researching this "Sacred Name" teaching. It does make sense to me but I am not real sure that it is of great importance because it is the message that is conveyed that is important. A word is but a vehicle of communication. So if it is just how it has come down to us by translation, then " a rose by any other name would still smell as sweet".
I also realize we are not saved by our doctrines but by faith and the true Spirit of God. Doctrines are just a means to communicate. They are also how we grow in the knowledge and equipping of God. "Man does not live by bread alone but by the Word of God" Spiritual growth comes from sound doctrine, and waiting upon the Lord.
3) I had asked who you are associated with. I had always believed we as a body are answerable one to another. We are to be submitted one to another in Christ. We are part of a body, not a lone ranger. Eph:5:21: "Submitting yourselves one to another in the fear of God."
I do believe that you can for a time be called to be apart for a season, but ultimately we belong to each other as a body.
I am in no way trying to attack you, I just am seeking the truth in Christ. I am hoping that we can grow together.
Yours, In Christ, PeterZ
Here we see that 1, the blood of Christ, 2, The name given under heaven, 3, The Body of Christ, have all been called into question, and had doubt cast upon them.
I have tried to avoid having to deal with this and remained silent as long as I could, but I now felt compelled of the Lord to speak.
I know many of you have received some truth from the things he has brought here, but as I would exhort again, eat the meat and spit out the bones. Try the spirits. Don't be carried away with "great swelling words" I know this will stir up controversy, but I will leave you with this.
Mt:11:25: At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
26: Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. 27: All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. 28: Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.29: Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30: For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
Mt:5:5: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Everyone and anyone,
I have prayed and contemplated about the discussions here and have come to understand that His name is not as important as KNOWING HIM. There is much we do not know, and maybe don't need to know because we confuse ourselves. When we question everything, the simplicity gets complicated and that's not productive.
Like Peace said, we can be one hundred percent that we are not right one hundred percent of the time (keeps us humble).
After all this clarification, I would still like to hear anybody's thoughts on Sharon's illness.
Watchman, I value your thoughts and knowledge. Is there any relevance to Sharon's illness (and probably pending death)?
Let's stick together you guys; there's not many of us good ones left!
PeterZ,
Just to let you know I have NEVER viewed anything you have said to be of a false-prophet nature or heresy teaching.
Susanne
The Watchman said...
Peter,
I have answered all of your concerns, there was no need to re-answer them, simply because it was not what you found satisfactory to your understanding.
And you continue with your false-prophet, heresy babble.
REPLY
You have never answered them directly, or I wouldn't find it necessary to ask them. You have skillfully skirted the issues. As you just did again. I had even offered you the option to answer me privately by email. If you are honest, why not go and answer honestly if you care so much about us and this flock?
I have deleted your full response and all other responses except a reply to the questions will be deleted.
Oh and there was a forth thing you called in question and cast doubt upon, 4) the authenticity of the Word
It is one thing as one who is seeking truth to question things, but you speak as though, God has made you the final word.
allow me to share some things I've found in scripture today. this passage is pertaining to restriction of diet, but seeing as how Jesus said "I am the bread of life" I think it pertains to the sacred name doctrine recently introduced (as well as the thoughts that Peace has shared)
Colossians2:18-19
Do not let anyone disqualify you by making you humiliate yourself and worship angels. Such people enter into visions, which fill them with foolish pride because of their human way of thinking. They do not hold tightly to Christ, the head. It is from him that all the parts of the body are cared for and held together. So it grows in the way God wants it to grow.
Colossians2:23
They seem to be wise, but they are only part of a man-made religion. They make people pretend not to be proud and make them punish their bodies, but they do not really control the evil desires of the sinful self.
this is the mindset that members of the body should hold on to:
Philippians 3:10-17
I want to know Christ and the power that raised him from the dead. I want to share in his sufferings and become like him in his death. Then I have hope that I myself will be raised from the dead. I do not mean that I am already as God wants me to be. I have not yet reached that goal, but I continue trying to reach it and to make it mine. Christ wants me to do that, which is the reason he made me his. Brothers and sisters, I know that I have not yet reached that goal, but there is one thing I always do. Forgetting the past and straining toward what is ahead, I keep trying to reach the goal and get the prize for which God called me through Christ to the life above. All of us who are spiritually mature should think this way, too. And if there are things you do not agree with, God will make them clear to you. But we should continue following the truth we already have. Brothers and sisters, all of you should try to follow my example and to copy those who live the way we showed you.
finally Philippians 4:4-8
Be full of joy in the Lord always. I will say again, be full of joy. Let everyone see that you are gentle and kind. The Lord is coming soon. Do not worry about anything, but pray and ask God for everything you need, always giving thanks. And God's peace, which is so great we cannot understand it, will keep your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus. Brothers and sisters, think about the things that are good and worthy of praise. Think about the things that are true and honorable and right and pure and beautiful and respected.
Watchman you have left me feeling confused...like the boy who cried wolf...you have left me not sure of where you stand in these matters...you have helped me come to terms with my reactionary anger (I have found correction and guidance in the book of James concerning that BIG big attutude problem) without even realising it. I am grateful for that experience, and I pray that you are truly connected to the vine of Christ. I don't mean to be insulting, I don't mean to be crying "heretic" but you have shown by your example that you do not consider the words of the brethren to be useful for correction of any varience you have on your "called path" This is not a persecution, as much as it is an intervention. I feel that if you accept your role as merely a part in the body of Christ, like us (and not neccessarily an eye or a tongue either!) you would be a valient warrior to fight along side with. But you do display many symtoms of "lone wolf syndrome", symtoms I recognise only because earlier this year I almost fell into that trap myself. We the body are here to reinforce and strengthen. We need no one man as a guide. We need humility and support. The Lord is my shepherd...I shall not be in need!! please pray about this, watchman.
God bless
Susanne, full grown woman that you may be, you are a blessed child of our Lord. I can almost see him lovingly cradling you in his arms now. Bless you
Young Brother,
Your words made my day.
There is nothing else I can say, except thank you and let you know you brought tears to my eyes and joy to my heart. Oh, to imagine being cradled in His arms. Only place I want to be.
That's one of the nicest things anyone has ever said to me.
I think what you just did for me is what He wants us to do for each other - lift each other up with encouragement and kindness.
I still have tears in my eyes. What a wonderful gift you have given me. May it be returned to you in some way soon.
Wow.
Thank you young brother.
Sincerely,
Susanne
Peace,
Like you, I don't put anything past this administration. Sharon had started not following Bush's peace plan (because it was not working - obviously), and when I heard the other day about his massive stroke, I thought to myself, "I wonder how Bush accomplished that." !!
Thanks for your kind thoughts and answering my query about Sharon. I still want to test the RFID tags in our money. I know they are there though. Can almost guarantee it.
Susanne
Excellent post Peace and YB. I agree completely
Susanne... YB said it well, you have a sweet loving tender spirit. You are trusting, and that is a wonderful thing, but because of that I feared you might be willing to jump too quickly. I already detected a measure of fear grasping you, in an effort to do everything correctly. If we did everything correctly we wouldn't need a savior. Trust no man completely, that includes me. Trust your Lord and savior. He will guide you in all things. When you hear new things, never be too quick to jump, but chew them over. Like the cow chews his cud. The Holy Spirit will make the truth of things known to you. I do think the person that calls himself the Watchmen has a lot of truth, but I think He has missed the point. Rv:2:4: Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. Jesus or if you prefer Yeshuah, is our first love. When my children were young, they called me Da Da, It didn't matter to me if they called me Daddy or Father, or Peter, I was just delighted to hear them call me and I knew it was me they were calling. How much greater is our heavenly father then I.
As far as Sharon is concerned, I don't know that we can say he is specifically mentioned in the Bible, unless you are using something like the Bible Code. But we do know that things are going according to plan. He will probably be replaced by someone that will further advance the agenda of the NWO.
God Bless
Amen, Peter, well said.
three leaders die under bush replaced with NWO operatives (as Sharon will be)....hmmm. one little horn uproots three before it....just speculating here.
These prophecies have many applications. Biblical prophecy is truth as metaphor in many layers, transcending time and singular definition...maybe this is one of those definitions.
Thank you Susanne!!! I have been having a difficult week, but what you said lifted my heart. that really means a lot to me.
also the three branches of American government being stolen by the right wing make another group of three under Bush. food for thought
PeterZ,
Thanks for looking out for me. I did jump rather quickly, but then I slowed down and asked Jesus for guidance. I am now comfortable in calling my wonderful Savior Jesus or Yehshua as knowing Him (and looking to Him)is what He really desires most. I was taken aback in that maybe I had been misled by traditional christianity (again) and I find it amazing and incredible that you could sense that. I agree that Watchman has many good points, but when he was chastising me for enjoying the new-found name, I knew his spirit wasn't in the right place at that moment. I know he may be reading this, and I mean no harm, to him or anyone, I think we can and should all learn from each other.
These times are trying, and we know they are going to be more trying. We're going to need each other more and more and I feel reassured having someone to talk to that tells me to trust no man, only Jesus, that I am where He wants me to be and that is why He brought me here. As I said before, you always give good advice. Many thanks again, PeterZ, and everyone here. It is a blessing to be your sister in Christ.
May God continue to have His face shine on you so you can continue this work for Him for those of us that are so depending on it.
Susanne
Hey, everyone MUST go check out this article:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060106/od_nm/technology_implants_dc;_ylt=AmN0yC7jlDS4kYigTWcg7TwSH9EA;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
The MARK of the BEAST is being advertised. The RFID technology (the chips the size of rice) are already being put into the market, and advertised on yahoo. They are making them ridiculously cheap of course, because they want it as widespread as possible as quickly as they can. Pass this link on.
You'll notice, the article was introduced 1/6/2006. 6th day, 6th year of the new millenium, and adding up the numbers, 1+6+2+0+0+6=15->1+5=6. I was waiting for something significant to drop on 1/6/2006, and this is is.
Hi, all
just wanted to check in and let ya know I haven't fallen off the face of the planet.
I have been reading the posts off and on and just haven't found the need to interject - yet....
Things are well on this end.
Great to see things are going well and it helps to have a place to touch on when I need it.
Interesting stuff, wish I had more time to post, but I have some major catching up to do.
I'll post a new entry on my blog and bring y'all up to date, and possibly comment here in more detail later.
HUGS
LP
Mike,
What do you think 6-6-06 will bring?
Susanne
Also,
Couldn't get that site to come up. Any other suggestions?
I have no idea, and don't want to try to go into specific dates before the fact, but this upcoming year the possible events that concern me are an attack on Iran by U.S. or Israel, and an attack on the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem that will be blamed on either Christian or Jewish extremists (or both). Either of these things would create instability. But I do want to reiterate that we must all keep in mind that everything will occur according to God's Will, He is sovereign over all, and all of the devil's ministrations, no matter how great they are in worldly power, are nothing compared to the spiritual power of the Lord. Put your faith and trust in Him, and do not be afraid. I relay information not in the attempt to frighten, but to share.
Anonymous, If you go to yahoo news and under search put in "computer chip" the article will be the 1st one that comes up.
Thanks, Mike,
I found it. Very interesting. Have you ever heard of the "verichip?" It holds more information and may be closer to the mark. (Excuse the play on words, but I couldn't help it). If I understood the news report, that I heard one time and only one time, that this is what they were using on the Katrina victims. Something to look into anyway.
Susanne
I just wanted to share this link.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11488.htm
1John 4:3
4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
This verse means that all unbelievers are the spirit of antichrist, over four billion of them!!!!
Did Jesus mistakenly tell his followers that hHe would return before they died?
Mat16:28
16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Anonymous...Again I hope you are asking because you are seeking, and not mocking.... If the Bible is what we believe it to be, I can assure you there are answers to the sincere seeker. I don't claim to know all answers to everything, but I do know the answer to those. In 1st John, It was not meant as a condemnation to the world, it was an endeavor to help the young or new in the faith to discern the true teachers from the false teachers that were trying to bring erroneous teaching and corruption to the Body of Christ.
If there are any mistakes in referring to the passage in Matthew, it was in how we translate it or interpret what Jesus said. He made no mistakes. The Greek word that is used for coming was erchomai, which means to come or to go. Many look at this passage in different ways. It could have meant that they would see Him going into His Kingdom, or coming into His Kingdom, or that His Kingdom was being born into the earth beginning at Pentecost when God poured out of His Spirit and empowered them. However you like.
You seem like you want to trap or ensnare, but we are not about condemning anyone, Christ came into the world to save the world not to condemn. When you look around you at the state this world is in and the corruption everywhere, in our Government, in the Corporate world and yes in so called Christianity, hopefully somewhere deep down inside of you, you know there is something better than the pain and suffering and injustice that most of the world must live in. If you can envision a kingdom of Love peace true justice and doing rightly, then you have had a glimpse of the Kingdom of God. The bible says because you can invasion it , that is proof that it exists.Heb:11:1: "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."
May God answer your heart.
Kevin,
that is a great find. Like I have said before, the United States is torturing children as we speak. This isn't a hypothetical. You can read about it in Jimmy Carter's new book. This isn't from a conspiracy theorist with dubious sources, this is from a former President and Nobel Peace Prize winner. In the book even George H.W. Bush's doctor goes on record about that is going on to people we have in custody. The White House has said age is not a factor in detention and interrogation, and they mean it. We have kids young as 8, as reported in Jimmy Carter's book, in custody. But yet, has the mainstream media picked up on it? Have they said a thing? Nope, because they are in on it. Has the religious right said something about it? They didn't like Harriet Miers, they sure raised the alarm on that one. Harriet Miers bothers them but torturing children does not bother them.
PeterZ,
Wouldn't God have thought about translation issues before He inspired man to write the Bible, as this was obviously a matter of eternal life or death?
You seem to think that I am "mocking". Why? Would it change the truth? I am a simple truth seeker who desires some questions answered by someone who is knowledgeable in these things. If it bothers you so much I will not seek answers from you anymore and please accept my apology for pestering you.
You are not pestering me at all, It wouldn't change the truth if you weren't sincere, it would just be wasting both of our time. But your last question I would ask you to ask God for the answer. Then you will know. I don't have the answers to all things, but He does.
what happened to watchmans posts? They were good answers?
I will do, I have learned a great deal from those things you have discovered and shared.
so what is this? are we now new-age christians? what's the purpose of this video? I'm confused, what does doctrines of devils have to do with Jesus?
To me,
the video shows another of the devil's ministrations. He has inundated the church so much with pagan beliefs and practices that he has built up a powerful armory of weapons to attack the followers of Christ. This video is very indicative of the spirit of antichrist. I think this kind of stuff, which first got a foothold in american culture in late 80s/early 90s, will come more out in the open and to the mainstream once again, as Christianity gets attacked under the weight of all the wickedness perpetrated in Christ's name right now by Bush and Nazi America.
Okay, I understand. So which is it, Jesus or Yahshua? Where does the name Jesus come from, if his name is Yahshua?
That was the post I was looking for, to show my sister, but is is gone. Why was it deleted?
Does anyone have a copy of it, or where I can find it? I would really like to read it to my sister.
There is every reason to believe that the name Yahshua translated from Arimaic to Greek is accuratly Jesus. He hears us, I do like the sound of Yahshua but the name Jesus is not a Hale to Zeus
Peace and PeterZ,
I cannot get the video to download (I'm on dial-up) so I can't see it. Are you telling me that this video addresses the name change of Jesus? So, we are confused again? I have become re-comfortable with the name of Jesus, but I can't let go of Yehshua (or something about it).
Do we think the name was really changed? Have we been dupped, again?
I wish He would come back so He can clear up all these mysteries. And I want to be cradled in His arms!
Still searching,
Susanne
Christ will come back at the proper time. The world will bear witness to tremendous uproar (the likes of which we have yet to see...as hard as that is to believe) before his return. I understand your longing Susanne, but if you have ever gone through the labor of giving birth, you have a good idea of what will separate us the body from our returned savior... as a man, all I can say about that is *ouch!* but I am grateful still to be a part of the body.
Yeshua was the name our Savior responded to...it is his Aramaic name, however by this point, it's best to remember that
"a Rose by any other name would smell as sweet"
I don't believe that lie about Jesus being "hail Zeus" and Peace, if you rememeber David Icke's argument about the messianic religion (the name escapes me) that he claims turned into Christianity...if you look at the legend of Hercules...(for example) you can see the evidence of Satan's attempt to discredit the validity of the story about the one and only Lamb (and begotten son) of God. The story of Him who loves us enough to die for us is the truth, and our adversary will do and has done everything in his power to hide the truth of Him from the people.
God Bless you all!
I want truth, truth, truth and more truth! Bring it on - I am so ready.
Only the last 400 years? That's so recent compared to the whole picture. Oh, I bet you meant 4,000.
YB, you sure have a gift with words and the clarity of your understanding is remarkable.
Peace, and if I remember right, the election in Germany was controversial (like ours), and let's not forget the two supreme court justices who have gone out under this tyrant's rule. I am fascinated by the unfolding of it all and the persistent blindness of so many.......but not you, my friend, you are an endless source of useful information. God has blessed you.
May He continue to bless us all here with open minds and hearts.
Susanne
Hey there Watchman, yeah, would have to be only 400 (kinda sleepy), as His death was 2006 years ago.
That's just not that long ago. Another mind boggling and soul searching fact, Watchman. Keep talking; I'm listening.
Glad you're here.
Susanne
Watchman,
If you're still around, just a quick thought/question: What about the "J" in James', Joshua, Jeremiah and all the other 'J' names? Just searching.
Thanks,
Susanne
Susanne, I have banned this man from my site, He is a divider and leading people astray. He is not welcome here. You have answered your own question about J, Jesus name wasn't spelled with a J it started in Greek with Iota and eta which together have a J sound. that is why we use it. or it could be Yasus. This whole controversy takes away from the sovereignty of God. He is able to guide us into all truth. I will go more into this in another post.
PeterZ,
I agree. I have come to realize that after searching and praying. Thanks for your guidance, PeterZ.
Susanne
Eccellant blog peterz...what is a prospect that most people do not understand is that they get the government they deserve...despite the grumbling...antichrist can rise up in any nation he chooses...if it be the U.S. that he chose then it would seem that we have becom a nation with no soul...we have reaped what we have sown...if lies where sown...then lies will be reaped...if violence and corruption were sown...then these too will be reaped...the question now would be...how do we come out of the belly of this beast as God instructed His people, lest we share in her sins and suffer her plagues?
What I find difficult to say when writing about these things is the word, "we" when referring to the sins of our nation...but truth be known...all who abide in it are responsible...that is an unfortunate thing, as there are some truely good , and well meaning people who are citizens here...but today, those who have come to know the truth, now have their citizenship in Christ, and are most definatly warned to come out of this spirit that has consummed this nation...the lawless one has come...but is not yet completely reveaeld to the world...and by this, our hope will be the return of Christ, who comes after this one.
It's very easy my friend: United States of America. EEUU.
Maybe it could be not a nice news. But is the cradle of abominations:
preventive war
witches hunting
porno industry and all their prevertions
industrial war complex
the major precentage of polution
the free hand gun laws
the land where childs shot childs and teachers
the land with dead penalty
the land where is legal the satanic church
the land where there are so many nuclear bombs underground reday to destroy the planet
the land where it planned the military coups in so many contries around the world...
Doy you want i continue the list?
bad old news
But i think there are so many americans that are good people but not thier politics and military elites
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