The Great Whore

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Rev:17: 1: And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will show unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
2: With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
3: So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4: And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6: And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
7: And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carried her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8: The beast that thou saw was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
When we read the Book of Revelation we must understand how and from what perspective it was written. We have all seen books like “Revelation made easy”. Unfortunately that is what the Christian establishment would have you think. This book was not meant for everyone to understand. Yes I know it promises a blessing to who ever shall read it, Rev.1:3; but they neglect to point out that it also says to those that keep it. This book is written in a way so as to be sealed to the spiritually blind, or immature. It contains great mysteries and power. If this power got into the hands of the wrong people, it would be like putting an atom bomb in the hands of a two year old. Heb: 5:14: “But strong meat belongs to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.”
The idea that true spiritual truth is hidden to some may not be popular, but there is much scriptural basis for this. Lk: 8:10: “And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables; that seeing they might not see, and hearing they might not understand.” We also see that timing may be a factor in understanding Gods message to us. Dan: 12:4: “But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.” (Like now). Paul in 1st Corinthians 12:2 says he was caught up into the third heaven and vs. 4: “How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.” He never left the earth, but had entered the spirit. Spiritual things can not always be translated “word for word”.
When John wrote the Apocalypse, he said Rev: 1:10: “I was in the Spirit on the Lord's Day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,” If he wrote it from the stand point of being in the spirit, does it not make sense to endeavor to understand it form the spirit?
We have heard it said that we have a left side of our brain and a right side (I am not sure which is which) One is more systematic and follows a flow of information, It is structured and ordered. It is where the math is done; sees the “real world” and has to put things into categories, and relates to the material universe, it is the Law. The other side sees images and patterns. It is creative, and sees things in pictures, and cycles. This is the side that sees into the spirit. This is the side that the book of Revelation appeals to. This explains why there seems to be many fulfillments to the verses contained in it. God is creating imagery so you can spot his hand and fulfillment.
Obviously much of its literal fulfillment has taken place with Rome, and Nero; But we see the same patterns like waves continue across the sands of time. Cycles that build until one final culmination. “Like travail upon women with child”
With this in mind, let us look back over history. How long has Satan had his grip and been in control of this world? It has been right since the beginning in the garden. How quickly people forget. God made this whole creation for man, and man gave it over to Satan. As a result all of creation is corruptible, running down and dying (The second law of thermo-dynamics). From that moment on God has been moving us toward His final plan, His Seventh Day, to bring us into His rest. As we look at the cycles and waves, they are not all exactly alike, but we see many of the same pictures. This explains why many believers and the early church would get it wrong as to the end, and the Antichrist. Through out History there have been many Antichrists. 1Jn:2:18: “Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.” We can start out with Pharaoh, the Babylonians, and Alexander the Great. Antiochus Epiphanies was the culmination in the Old Testament times. He offered a blood sacrifice of a pig in the Holy of Holies. He was prophesied of in Daniel. Then in New Testament times we have the first appearance in Judas; Most of the Caesars, especially those that fought against Christ, like Nero. Then here in this century many thought Adolph Hitler, was the Antichrist. Although he fulfilled much of what was needed to qualify he was apparently not yet the One. Now we are looking at the most chilling possibility in the person of George W. Busche. If we turn out to be incorrect again, the cycle will swing around again with more and more evil till “That Man of sin be revealed, The Son of Perdition”.
I have given a broad look at history because I want us to see the whole picture. Who and what is “This Great Whore”? She is an image of one ridding on the back of a beast. This beast is full of names of blasphemy or false gods. She is arrayed in wealth with Gold (significant of divine nature) and pearls (from the sea) and precious stones (from the dry land), full of the splendor of this world. We see an image of Grandeur. Like Christ her colors are Red (the color for man, blood) and Purple the color of royalty. Blue by the way is the color for God; it is the color of the heavens. Purple is the combination of blue and red. Christ was the combination of God = blue and Man= red giving us purple; The God Man and Royal King of Kings. It says she is sitting upon many waters. In verse 15, it tells us what those waters are. “The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.” It is all the people of the world that have and are being oppressed by her ridding on their back. The kings of the earth have committed fornication with her. All the kingdoms of the world and nations and empires have been in bed with their religious systems. They use each other to control the masses. By false promises like the American dream, the deceitfulness of riches and all the other lies that have been told us through the ages they have made the people drunk with her wine. Mk: 4:19: And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.
Rev.17: 2. “the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.”
Again it is important to have this broad look at history because this image does. This beast has seven heads. Verse 9; “The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10: And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11: And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. Mountains are significant of Kingdoms; the kings mentioned are the representatives of those Kingdoms. The five that had fallen were: 1.Egypt, 2.Assyria, 3.Babylon, 4.Medo-Persia, and 5.Greece. “One is” 6. Rome. And the other had “not yet come” – The American Empire. This nation may have started out benign but it is now going into perdition. It has only been around a short space. Then we see the beast that was and is not being the eighth. God says “I am that I am” Satan says “I am that I am not” This eighth is the Antichrist system that fills the whole earth. It is of the seven because it grew out of them, headed by the same kinds of Antichrists.
This past summer I had the privilege of taking a trip to some of the great cities of Europe. We went to London and saw the Palace of the Queen with all its might. How ironic that right in front in the park was a poor young homeless man. Then we went on to Paris; More amazing and dazzling splendor. The Louvre and Versailles full of their treasures and mixture of Christian and Pagan occult symbolism. Next stop; Rome, The Empire and the Coliseum. The Vatican with the most incredible splendor of all. You go inside and the glint of gold is everywhere. Wealth and riches beyond your wildest dreams. And as I was awe struck the Word of the Lord came to me Rev.17:6: “And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. 7: And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel?” So remarkable where the wonders of this Great Whore, that even John marveled. When the kings of France so abused the people, they rose up and cut off their heads. These blind guides in the Vatican hide behind God.
All this wealth and power and massive edifices are all designed to intimidate and control people and blind them from the truth; to make the masses drunk with the wine of her delicacies. Every where we saw Church after Church, Dome with Obelisk; Symbols of pagan deity worship. You see the same picture right in Washington DC on the Mall, Congress on one end and the Washington Monument at the other end. This is no coincidence. When Jesus was tempted in the wilderness by the devil, Lk: 4:5: “And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, showed unto him ALL the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time (including today’s). 6: And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7: If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine”. Jesus didn’t disagree that it was Satan’s to give, but he knew Mt: 16:26: “For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” So his answer was Lk: 4:8: “And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.” This is all about building the Kingdoms of this world on the backs of the poor. It is about the worship of Mammon the God of this age at the cost of the blood sweat and tears of those that are simple.
Think about all the atrocities that have been committed through the ages in the name of Religion and Political Ideologies; All proclaiming a just and true cause; Everything from the Crusades and the Inquisitions to the fight for Democracy or Communism. Think of the suffering, starvation and despair of the dark ages. These all made richer the money changers while the saints bleed in the streets. They kept back the word of God and taught that only the Priests were able to talk to God; Thus developing a kind of Illuminati or Illuminated class. They had a MYSTERY. The common people were kept in their place by the use of guilt, keeping them bound up worrying about their sexual desires; while they were committing every kind of sexual atrocities imaginable. Several Popes were known to have kept young boys and would simply burry them when they were through with them. Mt: 23:27: “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchers, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.” They are still indulging themselves in the fat and luxuries of this world. When the new Nazi Pope was negotiated into power by George Bush, (Kings fornicating with the Whore) I would watch the Cardinals getting out of their big limos dressed in Scarlet and Purple and gold and precious stones. Then a servant would run up with an umbrella to protect His tenderness from the terrible rays of the SON. I thought to my self, “Who does she think she is? Michael Jackson?”
At the time Jesus came, the Jewish hierarchy were living well and mixing there business practices with there religion. When they unearthed the home of Caiaphas the high priest, it was clear that he was a rich man. The reason the Jews rejected Christ the first time was because he didn’t come to do their bidding. (as a note, it was not the common Jews that rejected Him, most of the early church were Jews. It was the Jewish establishment.) They wanted Him to “Restore the Kingdom to Israel” or return to the status quoi and there ruling order. They didn’t really care what He was preaching or doing, as far as they were concerned He was just a nuisance. But when He messed with their money and overturned the money changers tables, they were threatened. This is when they wanted Him killed. You should all view the film called the “Money Masters” and Part2
So who is this Great Whore of Babylon? Remember in another post I said all the religions of the world seem to have their roots in Babylon. This is why she is the Mother of Harlots. She is ALL of the organized religions of this world. She is Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, The Roman Catholic church, The right wing fundamentalist, and Denominationalism; She is the cults and Isms; She is the Secret societies and Black Arts; She is the Idols and Demon Gods from ancient times that keep coming back riding on the back of the worlds political systems. The two give power to each other. They are in bed together committing fornication. They are not flesh and blood but powers and principalities the rulers of the darkness of this world; they are spiritual wickedness in high places. Eph:6:12
We now see the whole earth subdued by her and consuming the world recourses. The blind masses worshiping at the alter of consumerism putting themselves further and further into enslavement; being bound to the love of this world Lusting for Oil to drive her machines. Rv:9:2: “And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.”(air pollution)
I know that some will think me a crazy person after reading this. But: 2Tm:1:7: “For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.”
1Cor:2:14: “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” We have come to think it is normal and the way it should be for our families to be scattered all over the place “without natural affection” to serve this Industrial Military Complex. Rv: 6:10: “And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?” Rv: 18:4: And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” 1Pt:2:9: “But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should show forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvelous light:”
The art work in this and the last post is my work, putting them together from a number of pictures. If you click on them you can see a bigger version.

Who is Jesus?

The King Conquering the Dragon

When we discuss The Lord Jesus Christ, with the unbeliever or the follower of eastern religions, and some modern day religious systems; we may get back a response like “Jesus is A way” to God, not THE way. This is a put down to Christ veiled as an expression of reverence. Any statement like He was a holy prophet or a great man is in reality making Him less than what and who He is. Some would say that God is an impersonal force. They would claim that to say that God could be anthropomorphic (man like) is to limit Him. That He or “it” is beyond all of that. What they fail to see is that they are the ones that are limiting God. Does it not make sense that our source or creator would be greater than us or the creation? If I have intelligence and a personality, wouldn’t it be logical to believe that my source would also have that capability as well? If so what would it be like?
With this in mind let us have a look at who this humble carpenter from Nazareth really is and who the Bible claims Him to be. John: 1:1: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” The word used here for WORD is the Greek word LOGOS it is where we get our word logic. It is describing the very intent and/or expression of God. Vs. 3: “All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.” God spoke all things into existence. He said “Let there be” and there was. Vs. 14: “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,” The word used here for dwelt is the Greek word SKENOO, it means to tent or tabernacle among us. The picture is as though God the Eternal had put on a garment or a tent over His spirit, so we could see Him. vs.18: No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Jn: 4:24 “God is a Spirit” It is Jesus who reveals Him to us. Hebrews 1: 1: “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spoke in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2: Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3: Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;”
Some cults that claim to believe in the Bible say He is the Son of God and Jehovah is God. I will endeavor to show that they are one and the same. Any time we see a manifestation of God what we see is the Son, because the Son is the expression or manifestation of the Father. And we see or experience Him by agency of the Holy Spirit. Thus we see the Triune God. Think of it in this way. All of creation is given to understanding spiritual truth. I have said in a previous post, that the Sun in the sky is a type of Jesus. He is the light of the world, the life giving force to everything on this planet. It sets and rises again. We are children of the day. The invisible driving force or Power behind that ball of fire is the father. When we look upon it, we see the manifestation of power, or the Son; and we are able to see it and feel it because of its rays, or the Holy Spirit. One but three.
When Moses went up into the mountain and saw the burning bush, what he saw was the Son Jesus. The bush said that His name was “I Am” Jn: 8:58: “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I Am. 59: Then took they up stones to cast at him:” The reason they wanted to stone him was because they knew what He meant when he said that. He was equating himself to being one and the same. As an interesting side note, the name I AM was an ever present tense. It actually meant I am Who I am, When I am, Where I am, Why I am, What I am and How I am. Every question you can ask, He is the answer. Also all those questions are actually derived from the name for God. They all contain the YHWH.
Jesus was unique of all men, in that He did not have an earthly father. His father was God. This was in fulfillment to the scripture. Isa: 7:14: “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Which being interpreted is, God with us.” Mt: 1:23. The blood flowing through his veins was eternal blood from His father (Lev: 17:11: For the life of the flesh is in the blood). So when His blood was shed it was shed once for all mankind for ever. All the sacrifices of the perfect lambs without spot or blemish before were only a foreshadowing of the true sacrifice that was to come in Christ. With His death He paid the price for our sins, and opened up the Gates of Heaven. Now anyone can come “Boldly to the throne of grace” Heb. 4:16. With His resurrection He conquered death. 1Cor:15:21: “For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22: For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23: But every man in his own order: Christ the first fruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24: Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when He shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 25: For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. 26: The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
Jesus has been with us from the beginning of creation. In Exodus there is a wonderful prophetic picture. In chapter 17 vs. 3 we see the people were thirsty for water as we thirst for living water, and truth. 5: “And the LORD said unto Moses, Go on before the people, and take with thee of the elders of Israel; and thy rod, wherewith thou smotest the river, take in thine hand, and go. 6: Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel”. Then in Numbers 20 vs. 7- 12 When the people needed water again God has instructed Moses to SPEAK to the rock and the water would flow; but Moses had lost his temper and was angry with the people, and he smote the rock again twice, instead of talking to the rock. Jesus was that Rock that followed the children of Israel through the wilderness. 1Cor:10:4: “And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.” What an incredible picture. Jesus only needed to be smitten once for all, and that was accomplished at the cross. Since then when we need the living water we don’t need to crucify Christ afresh or offer another sacrifice, we need but to ask. Talk to the Rock. It was because of this that Moses broke the type and was not able to enter the Promise Land. Jesus was smitten once for all mankind forever.
The name Jehovah or Yahweh does not really exist. It is derived from the Hebrew Tetragrammaton, YHWH. When we see the word Lord used in the Old Testament it is in replacement of that symbol. In reading from the scripture the Priests used the word Adonai (my Lord) because the name was unpronounceable. It was believed that God was present in His name so if you could say the name of god the very earth would burn at the sound of it.
In the book of the prophet Zechariah we see this interesting verse. They Lord Jehovah is speaking. Zech:12:10: “And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.” I would ask you, when did we ever pierce Jehovah? It was Jesus whom we pierced, Jehovah the Savior. Another incredible prophecy is seen in Isaiah. Isa:52:5: “Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD (Jehovah), that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed.” Here we see the Lord saying that his people are oppressed like the children of Israel that were in slavery in Egypt. We have been carried away for a lie and false values and as a result we are howling with oppression. Then you hear people blaspheming the name of the Lord. In anger they shout “Jesus Christ”. You don’t here them saying Oh Jehovah.
I was in a discussion with a sincere Islamic man who would tell me he would pray to God Allah. The name Allah is the same as Elohim. EL Al .He said he did not pray to Jesus, he prayed to God. I said that if who he is praying to is God than he is praying to Jesus. They are the same. There is no other way to get to God because He is God, not A God but the one and only. Most Hebrew names end in either the EL sound from Elohim like Michael, (meaning, He who is like God), or IAH like Isaiah (Salvation of Jehovah).
The Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that our bibles have been corrupted. Or that the King James was changed. They point to this verse. 1Jn:5:7: “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” Here we have a clear depiction of the trinity, but unfortunately they are correct. That verse, although is sound doctrine, was probably added, and not in the original texts. We don’t really need it to be there to show the soundness of the Trinity. As said before, there is oneness and threeness in the entire creation. We have many other modern translations to compare in our studies. There are so many copies of ancient manuscripts both Old Testament and New, that it is almost embarrassing. Then they would argue that Jesus was A mighty god not the Almighty God. Let us compare two verses. Ps:50:1: The mighty God, even the LORD (Jehovah), hath spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof. Isa:9:6: For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Here we clearly see that the Father and the Son are the same.
Who is this Lord Jesus? He is the loving Father, that truly knows us, not only because of His infinite knowledge, but He knows us from experience. He became a man. He showed us not only what God was like, but what God intended man to be like. Rom:5:8: But God commended his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. He is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Rv:13:8.- Ps:24:8: He is the King of glory, The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.
When you see Jesus, you fall in love and you want to follow because you have met the Master. Rv:5: 11: And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12: Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honor, and glory, and blessing. 13: And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honor, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
Amen and Amen.

Wound to the Head

The Little Horn

In learning about the Antichrist, one of the great questions we seek an answer to concerns what the scripture is talking about when we read in Revelation that the beast receives a mortal wound to one of its heads. Rev: 13: 3: "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast." As far as the wound to the head, some have suggested that perhaps it means that Bush’s popularity has dropped and even his staunchest supporters seem to have turned against him. Does this mean “Bush is dead politically and then "miraculously" he will rebound and grab more power and influence than he had before?” (NathanDave) We don't know as yet. It could also be a real mortal wound (although I doubt that). Someone, in one of the comments either here or on Hanchett’s blog, (can't remember where) made the comment about “W” being the resurrected Bush after his father received a "Mortal wound" by loosing the election to Bill Clinton. That was obviously not in their plans. They did everything in their power to destroy Clinton, spending over $50 million of our money to search out his sex life. This is also very possibly an application. After all it also says in Vs.14 that the wound was received by a sword. The “Sword” speaks of the word or a word and the breath of God. Eph: 6:17: “And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:” Heb: 4:12: “For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” 2Thes:2:8: “And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:” Rv: 2:16: “Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.” Most political observers would say that if you were to point to any one thing that caused George H.W. to loose you would have to say it was his own WORDS. “Read my lips, No new taxes” Could this be the sword that struck him to the head? I would like to tell you all a brief story. My mother, who was 93 when she died a few years ago, was seemingly a bit senile in the last several years of her life. She at times would think she saw things, and would have knowledge of things that were strange. I just thought she was a bit crazy. From the very beginning of Bill Clintons Presidency, every time something bad would happen she would say “That’s that George Bush, He's behind this" and I would tell her she was wrong, I would tell her that Bush had lost and he was back in Texas. He had no power anymore and he could not be behind these things. I just thought these were the grumblings of an old lady that had no idea what she was talking about. But she would insist, always saying " Oh no, you watch He's behind it" I would argue with her a bit, and insist that she was wrong. She would continue to insist that she knew, and would say “You watch, He's behind it, He'll come back, He'll come back, and the stock market will crash and we will go to war, you watch!!" Now if your hair isn't standing on end yet, let me say this everything happened just like she said. In Biblical references, many times the father and the son are considered the same person. They are certainly the same spirit. My mother wasn't a particularly godly woman, but I believe that when you are in a state where your sense of reality is altered and somewhat delusional, you can be more open to seeing into the spirit. It may not always be from God, but can in fact be truth. The devils would speak the truth when the Lord came into their presence declaring him as the "Christ". The devil also likes to give people truths to get you to trust him and then slip you a lie. I say this because what my mother had seen did come to pass. Most defiantly a spirit had shown her this, but I am not sure it was the Spirit of God. My point is I believe God may have been telling me something through my mother. Did this mean the G.W. Bush is the father restored to power? I don't know for sure, but my feeling is that he is. The important thing is the "Fruit" we can watch this and know that if not THE antichrist, certainly AN antichrist. The cycles and patterns are always the same. On the other hand both or all applications could also happen. If you remember how the father was so high in popularity you would have thought, how could anyone ever beat him? GW was the same, having gone from the highest approval ratings of any president to the lowest. Much of these discussions I believe are healthy and important speculation in pursuit of the truth. Now we have been beating the drum about Iran. We are going into Iran. People think NO WAY, but what would happen if an atomic bomb went off in this country, or on a military base here or elsewhere in the world? Then they say "See the Iranians did it and this proves they have nuclear capabilities" He would sky rocket back up in the polls and people would take to the streets shouting “Lets go nuke em” I hope I am wrong.
I would also like to comment on the discussion of the Illuminati. It is true that plots and plans have been laid by these secret societies for a very long time and certainly they have achieved much of their plans so far, but I want to remind my readers, that none of these men are smart enough or wise enough to figure out all the courses and possibilities that could happen. It may give us some insight to know what they are up to, but remember this is a spiritual thing. Eph: 6:12: “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
All their plotting and planning is only setting their own trap. They are being used to ultimately accomplish the will of God Ps: 9:16: “The LORD is known by the judgment which he executes: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.” Prov: 12:13: “The wicked is snared by the transgression of his lips: but the just shall come out of trouble.” God’s will shall be done, even by the deceivers. Jesus prayed it, “Thy Will be done” and it will be answered.
I have posted this Psalm to help calm any fear in these days.
Psalm 37:1: Fret not thyself because of evildoers, neither be thou envious against the workers of iniquity.2: For they shall soon be cut down like the grass, and wither as the green herb.3: Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed.4: Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.5: Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.6: And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgment as the noonday.7: Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass.8: Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.9: For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.10: For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.11: But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.12: The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.13: The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming. 14: The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, to cast down the poor and needy, and to slay such as be of upright conversation.15: Their sword shall enter into their own heart, and their bows shall be broken. 16: A little that a righteous man hath is better than the riches of many wicked. 17: For the arms of the wicked shall be broken: but the LORD upholdeth the righteous.18: The LORD knoweth the days of the upright: and their inheritance shall be for ever.19: They shall not be ashamed in the evil time: and in the days of famine they shall be satisfied.20: But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.21: The wicked borroweth, and payeth not again: but the righteous sheweth mercy, and giveth.22: For such as be blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and they that be cursed of him shall be cut off.23: The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way.24: Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down: for the LORD upholdeth him with his hand.25: I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread.26: He is ever merciful, and lendeth; and his seed is blessed.27: Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore.28: For the LORD loveth judgment, and forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever: but the seed of the wicked shall be cut off.29: The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever.30: The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.31: The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.32: The wicked watcheth the righteous, and seeketh to slay him.33: The LORD will not leave him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is judged.34: Wait on the LORD, and keep his way, and he shall exalt thee to inherit the land: when the wicked are cut off, thou shalt see it.35: I have seen the wicked in great power, and spreading himself like a green bay tree.36: Yet he passed away, and, lo, he was not: yea, I sought him, but he could not be found. 37: Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace.38: But the transgressors shall be destroyed together: the end of the wicked shall be cut off. 39: But the salvation of the righteous is of the LORD: he is their strength in the time of trouble. 40: And the LORD shall help them and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him.
2Pt:1:2: Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord.

Nero = Bush

Hail to the Chief

Most scholars would agree that Nero was indeed one of the clearest types of Antichrist we have in history, and then also Adolph Hitler. It is widely accepted that Nero was who John was writing about directly in the book of Revelation. Antichrists set several patterns that occur over and over.
This leads me to make a few observations. Nero “Fiddled” while Rome burned. George W. “Fiddled” while New Orleans flooded. http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blbushpetgoat2.htm Fire and Water. I am well aware that Nero didn’t actually fiddle; Emperor Nero Claudius Caesar couldn't have fiddled while Rome burned in A.D. 64 because the violin wasn't invented until the 1500s. What Nero really did while Rome burned most believe is sing. The emperor, who had artistic ambitions, was apparently performing an old Greek scene for his friends. The first reference to Nero's fiddling appeared in the mid-1600s. The word "fiddle" seems to have been used to mean "engaging in frivolous activity," not "playing a violin." When he was done singing, Nero blamed the fire on the Christians and began the first Roman persecution. The beginning of the “Blame Game?” Others, pointing to Nero's desire to rebuild Rome on a grand scale, note that the fire was a very convenient way for him to carry out his plans and suggest that he may have caused the fire himself.
The similarities are striking. Although it was widely believed that Nero started the fire this was never actually proven to be the case. The same situation is now arisen again. News stories seem to be surfacing that claim that the levies where deliberately blown to flood the city. http://www.aztlan.net/new_orleans_land_grab.htm . Weather either is true we may never know this side of eternity, but what we do know for a fact is that both profited by it. Nero later had the city rebuilt. But what got him a lot of criticism was that when he had the city rebuilt he had himself a HUGE palace built. So, although he may not have burned Rome, he did take advantage of the burning by having a huge palace built on the ruins.
In an effort to be “Fair and Balanced” I have to say that listening to the Bush speech the other night, I would say it was well done, he said all the right things one would want to hear. You almost thought he cared. The only problem is that he is a LIAR. I heard someone say that it reminded them of the battered wife syndrome. Every time you get beaten by the husband, he comes back with flowers and says he is sorry, and will do better next time.
Now George W. is talking about spending $200 billion on rebuilding New Orleans. This is not about compassion; it is about lining his and his cronies’ pockets. We are already seeing the “No Bid contracts” going to Halliburton, and others. This is about taking money from the poor and the middle class tax payers and putting it into the hands of the corporations.
Here are a few more “coincidences” to ponder: 666 in Revelation was a direct reference to the then Antichrist. In Hebrew numerology Caesar Nero was equal to 666, as is George Walker Busche today. They both presided over the decline of their Empire. Bush is now head of the new revived Roman Empire, and he shares much of the same nature as his counter part.
Adolph Hitler also has nothing on him, 1. They both stole power claming it was a mandate 2. Both used a seeming terror attack to galvanize and cement their leadership.3. Both invoke fear to control the masses. 4. Both manipulated the media for propaganda. 5. Both declare a vision of world domination. 6. Both started a war without provocation. 7. Both are not Christians and distort the truth of the Gospel and teachings of Christ.
When you look around us at the attitude in the world, the people just want to “Fiddle”. The world is trying to go on as though nothing is happening; Las Vegas keeps building bigger and more excessive. Many parts of the country Real Estate markets are bloated and they think it will all just keep on going up. Europe is just the same as the US. Every man is running to and fro Dan:12:4: and attending to his own affairs and own house. Hag:1:9: “Ye looked for much, and, lo, it came to little; and when ye brought it home, I did blow upon it. Why? saith the LORD of hosts. Because of mine house that is waste, and ye run every man unto his own house.” Mt:24:37: “But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38: For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39: And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.”
Now for the good news, Satan has lost. Jn:16:33: “These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world”. Jesus here has made us a promise; that in the world ye shall have tribulation but in Him we shall have peace. That is a promise. Keep your eye on him, the birth pangs are getting stronger and closer together, as we give birth to a new age. To the Christian tribulation will be as a refiner’s fire to burn off the chaff and mature us into Christ.

Serpent on a Pole

Whore of Medicine

In a previous post I warned you that as I explored the height, width and depth of the Whore Babylon, some would think me a loon. I also mentioned that my mother-in-law had just died of lung cancer. She was a heavy smoker for 40 years. I found it ironic that the same family fortune (Duke) that gave her the cancer in the first place from smoking was now making as much money or more on the effort to treat her.
What I am about to discuss here is the RELIGION of modern medicine. In this discussion I am not saying that we should not see doctors or use medicine, but I am saying that there is a better higher more excellent way. Many times the good can become the enemy of the best. Doctors are viewed by many people as though they were Gods or High Priests; having the power of life and death in their hands. They put all their faith in them and seem surprised when they make a mistake or don’t have a cure for everything. The fact is that much of what is done in medicine today is just guess work and experimentation.
With this in mind let us look back at the history and origin of “Medicine” and its “Symbol” I think we will discover that it is very much part of this “Great Whore”.
In the book of Genesis there is an account that few pay any attention to. The Bible tells us that giants (Nephilim) were in the earth in those days. How did they get here? Satan has known since the beginning that Gods plan for salvation would come through the seed of a woman, and knowing that with that salvation would come his own destruction; Satan has sought since then to corrupt and destroy mankind. In Gen.6: 1: “And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2: That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3: And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he ALSO is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4: There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5: And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” Apparently these fallen angels where having offspring as a result of their union. This is another account of spirit and flesh having produced a child. Satan’s counterfeit of Jesus born of Spirit through Mary; God’s purpose to save mankind and Satan’s purpose to destroy it. In “The Book of Enoch” we see an interesting account of some of what happened as a result of these relations man had with the fallen angels. First let me discuss for a moment the “Book of Enoch” itself. I know some would say it is not the Bible, but it is referred to in the Bible and quoted. In fact many scholars believe that the account I just posted here from Genesis, Moses learned from the account in “The Book of Enoch”. Jude quotes directly from it Jude: 1:14: “And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints” (Enoch 1:9). Notice that Jude was not talking about just any Enoch but the one that was “Seventh from Adam” and before the flood. This is what Jude is talking about in vs.6 “And the angels which kept not their first estate, (the spiritual realm) but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7: Even as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh,” The strange flesh that this is referring to here in context was the men of Sodom were going after the Angels. This has nothing to do with homosexuality as some of the modern translations have mistakenly interpreted. The early church looked at this book along with the “Epistle of Barnabas” as Scripture. Some believe these writings survived by being carried on the Ark with Noah, and then latter having been in Joseph’s care they were in the coffin with him as he was taken out of Egypt. Now let us have a look at a passage in the book to see what happened. Chapter 7. vs.1 “And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms 2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they 3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells.” Here we see these falling angels teaching mankind how to use the things of the earth. In another place they teach them metallurgy. This may seem at first a good thing, but what in fact is happening is they are teaching man to be independent of God. This is the earliest form of Witchcraft and use of drugs and medicines. The “cutting of roots” and “acquainted with plants” was the making of potions for use in healing or casting spells and altering consciousness.
The first time we see the serpent on a pole is in Numbers 21. vs. 5: “And the people spoke against God, and against Moses, Wherefore have ye brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? for there is no bread, neither is there any water; and our soul loathes this light bread. 6: And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. 7: Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. 8: And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looks upon it, shall live. 9: And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.” This is a prophetic picture of Jesus’ on the cross. He is depicted as a serpent because He had become sin for us. The serpents that were biting the Israelites and causing death are a depiction of sin. Rom:6:23: “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” We, like the Israelites are healed by looking upon the cross of Christ. Is this meant to be only spiritual healing? Mt:9:29: “Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.”
The next place in history we see the serpent on a pole is in the Greek city of Pergamos. In this city the main attraction was the Temple of Esculapius. The statue pictured above is from this temple. It was this temple that all the sick would attend to receive treatments and advice. It dates from 400- 390 B.C. Most would agree that this is where the modern symbols of medicine come from. I found it astounding that in the book of Revelation it is called “Satan’s seat” Rev.2: 12: “And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges; 13: I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.”. So again, we see the true, and the counterfeit; Gods Serpent on a pole and Satan’s. Shouldn’t Gods be the more powerful and trustworthy?
In the New Testament when we see the word “Witchcraft” used it comes from the Greek word Pharmacia. This is where our word Pharmacy comes from. It is the use of drugs. What am I saying? Do I mean that we are not to use medicines? Well ultimately yes, we won’t need to. I believe Jesus is capable of healing our bodies as well as our souls. Do I think we are ready to walk in that yet? NO!!! I do believe that that day is at hand though. God is in the process of showing us the truth about modern medicine and causing us to have to rely on Him. Did Jesus heal for profit? When we wonder why the price of drugs is so high, we are told that they need to be in order to encourage more and better drugs. It is all about the profit motive, or the “Love of money.” Now we are beginning to see the true spirit behind the drug industry. The seed that was planted back with the “Nephilim” and the fallen angels is now grown into a tree, and we see the greedy fruit. I understand Michael Moore is doing a documentary on the subject. That promises to be very interesting. What ever happened to the idea of wanting to be of service to mankind? More and more people are unable to afford the medicines we have become so dependant on, and insurance rates are going through the roof. In fact the profit motive is an incentive not to cure but to keep people in need of their drugs. Look at the viral disease HIV; people that are infected need medications that cost several thousand dollars a month. You tell me, where is the incentive to cure that illness? Just keep the cash flowing. If you create a cure or a vaccine, the money stops. People today are more dependent on drugs than ever before and we have supposedly made great strides in medical science; Yet the prospects of a plague being unleashed upon mankind is more ominous than ever. In our spirit man seems to know that the time is at hand, almost everyone in places like NYC that are financially successful need to go to a therapist. Sales of antidepressants and antipsychotic drugs are in the multi billions. Was this the way God meant it to be? God gave us guide lines for physical and spiritual health. I read a great book on the subject years ago; about the Biblical guidelines for health I believe it is still available (“None of These Diseases”). The idea is that if we were living according to Gods design most of the health problems we have would not exist.
As this new day dawns and God pours out of his Spirit, the darkness will get darker and the light will get lighter. Rv:22:11. We have had a lot discussion on the Antichrist and the dark hoards he is unleashing. There will be much tribulation as the travail of the birth pangs get more intense, but to the true believer these thing will be as a refiners fire to perfect the saints. To the wicked it will burn them up. Rom:5:3: “And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;” In the early church we saw a shadow of the spiritual power and healing Jesus spoke of when he said Jn:14:12: “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.” When Peter walked if just his shadow fell on someone they were healed. Acts:3:6: “Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and walk.” This is not the phony Pat Robertson fake stuff, but the real thing. We have not seen the “greater works” happen in the church yet, but it will in these last days. The scripture teaches that Hag:2:9: “The glory of this latter house ( the end time church) shall be greater than of the former, saith the LORD of hosts: and in this place will I give peace, saith the LORD of hosts.” Amen and Amen Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
As I labor in the word to teach I do appreciate your comments.

More wrong with the "Right"

Jerry & Sun Myung Moon

In 1994 Falwell quietly accepted $3.5 million from Korean cult messiah Sun Myung Moon as part of a larger deal to bail Liberty University out from under its horrendous debt load. Perhaps Jerry was moved by this staggering generosity. That might be the reason why Falwell publicly urged his friend President Reagan to pardon Moon's tax evasion conviction.

I know I have promised to post on the "Whore Babylon". I am working on it
but still have more research on the subject before I post, but This post is not
off topic, If you have an ear to hear. I just had to put this before you.
Below is an email sent by Jerry Falwell to the members of the Moral Majority, in response to a direct challenge to Falwell (et al)'s monopoly on "Christian Values(tm)" from a new organization called the Christian Alliance for Progress (http://www.christianalliance.org/). This silly bunch dared to assert that Falwell (et al) are not Jesus' latter-day conduits on political and scriptural issues. Falwell's response is so full of gaping logical, hermeneutic, and scriptural holes, it begs for rebuttal. The challengers are (predictably) collecting rebuttals to send to Falwell (and other interested parties). Please remember, according to the Washington Post, Reverend Falwell is one of the people the White House has asked for input on the Supreme Court nominee. At this point in time, Falwell's Christianity IS American Christianity, and that delusion is killing multitudes, while deforming the lives of millions. It is long past time to publicly, vocally, and scripturally disavow this heretical greed.
My responses will be in brackets and red letters.
Falwell Confidential Insider weekly newsletter to The Moral Majority Coalition and The Liberty Alliance http://www.moralmajority.us/ From: Jerry Falwell Date: July 8, 2005 ANOTHER GROUP ARRIVES TO COMBAT THE 'RELIGIOUS RIGHT' Last month, a new leftist religious organization announced its inception to battle the alleged domination that Dr. James Dobson, Pat Robertson and I have on modern-day politics. This organization, the Christian Alliance for Progress, is hardly "Christian." You may say, Falwell, that's a pretty harsh statement. Well, let's take a look at this new group so we can determine if they are actually exhibiting the precepts of true Christianity. In announcing its formation, the Christian Alliance for Progress unveiled what it called its "Jacksonville Declaration," an open letter to the political and church leaders of the religious right, which "challenges and invites them to return to a Christian foundation of compassion and justice, values that Jesus passionately taught and lived." First, the sole purpose for Jesus' ministry on earth was stated in His own words: "... for the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost" (Luke 19:30). {that is exactly what they do not do, they have come to condemn}
Any organization that deems to calls itself "Christian," simply must have as its basis the reality that Jesus asserted that salvation could come only through Him. I wonder if the leadership of the Christian Alliance for Progress would state that Jesus Christ, who conquered death following His crucifixion, is the singular avenue to eternal life in heaven? If not, how can the name Christian be suitable for this organization? {here he uses innuendo to discredit. He infers that they do not believe in salvation by the Cross of Christ}
Second, the Christian Alliance for Progress says it will "speak out when conservative Christians misrepresent the gospel to support their misguided political positions." These positions include "equality for gays and lesbians" {would Jesus have treated anyone with inequality?} and
"honoring the sanctity of childbearing decisions through effective prevention, not criminalization of abortion." {Please read my post on "Love & Choice" below, it has a sound biblical foundation.} It sounds like the Alliance got its talking points from Howard Dean. The group is simply falling in line with untold numbers of past liberal church groups that have promoted abortion-rights, homosexual rights and anti-war sentiments. Joseph Loconte recently commented in the Wall Street Journal (July 1, 2005) that while the Christian Alliance for Progress claims to be "firmly founded on the teachings of the Gospel," students of the Gospel "may be surprised at how neatly such an agenda fits the Democratic Party platform."{it could be that the Democratic platform is more closely aligned with the teaching of our Lord} Here is a reality of the Bible: it clearly forbids homosexual behavior { it does not} and, for that matter, any sexual activity outside the bonds of male-female marriage. {Then let's take away the rights of all sinners} The Word of God unmistakably speaks against homosexual behavior in Romans chapter 1, describing a time in history when, as today, men and women gave themselves over to unnatural sexual relations. There can be no mistaking that these passages condemn same-sex relationships. The Christian Alliance for Progress can label themselves "Christian," but they are willfully daring to distort and dispute biblical writings forbidding homosexuality. Further, abortion is clearly not the will of God. The Bible does not expressly address abortion, but in Psalm 139, we see a beautiful and remarkable picture of Almighty God ministering to us even within the womb: "But you covered my inward parts; You covered me in my mother's womb. I will praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Marvelous are Your works" (Psalm 139: 13, 14) Bottom line: personhood begins in the womb at conception; and the Bible is clear -{It is not!! at best this is a matter of interpretation. In this case, King David
is speaking of Gods affection for him even before he was born. The passage shows
Gods foreknowledge and love} "Thou shalt not kill." I often wonder how in the world leftist theologians can read this dramatic passage and continue to be lost in their abortion-rights quagmire.{Gen:2:7: "And the LORD God formed man of the dust
of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."
Life is not the question, animals have life; but here we clearly see when God gives man a soul;
With his first breath.I would also say all our soldiers and those we are killing qualify. How dare he quote " Thou shalt not kill" while supporting American aggression} The Christian Alliance for Progress describes themselves as "progressive," but their so-called broad-minded efforts toward tolerance have blinded them to how the Bible instructs us to live. Finally, the Alliance calls for peace and an end to war, but they cannot understand that the only true peace that man can know comes through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. He was not a hippie do-gooder, but rather the Son of the Living God who came to earth to pave the one way to heaven for mankind. To present Him as anything less is an outrage. {he was a do-gooder, not a tax brakes to the rich hypocrite} Dr. Ed Hindson, renowned theologian and Liberty University professor,> writing in the August issue of National Liberty Journal,
{their University and their publication, in other words, Jerry's employee,
spouting the party line under the guise of respectability and superiority} stated: "If liberals want to debate these issues on biblical grounds, let them go right ahead. Because they will lose, not only the debate, but also any influence they might hope to have among spiritually minded people. They are correct when they insist we do not speak for them and they certainly don't speak for us. Their new Alliance for Progress will simply result in one more organization in regress." { I for one will accept that challenge, because
"You can do nothing against the truth"} Many Americans are seeking to discover the true peace of Christ and real meaning for their lives. While evangelical Christians will continue to be denounced and despised by the fashionable left, {Fashionable? what is he smoking?
we are not the ones in control, sitting in the seats of power} we must continue to devotedly and passionately take the truth of the Gospel into the world.
{Mt:23:15: "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye
compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him
twofold more the child of hell than yourselves."} It is my sincere pleasure and privilege to be laughed at and scorned {all the way to the bank}
because I have chosen to walk with and live out my life in servitude to the Christ of the Bible. {The truth is his God is Mammon and the capitalist antichrist system.
Again they have dismissed true believers.They know not the Spirit or true Christians because
they know not the Father. They have boiled down Christianity again to the same two issues;
Human gay rights and Choice. On both issues they twist the Bible to make it fit so they can appear to be righteous and Godly. Mt:23:24: "Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel." They care nothing about human suffering around the world.}

Leaving Babylon

A Gathering of the Church

Sorry I have been so absent. We have been dealing with taking care of a dying parent. My "mother-in-law" passed away on Monday of lung cancer. As you may imagine it was a very difficult time to do any writing. We had a constant stream of relatives and friends visiting and staying over so there was lots to attend to.
In answer to Susan's question about leaving Babylon, America (the land itself) is not Babylon, it is run by the Gods of Babylon, (The Corporations) but then so is the whole Earth. The organized "Church" truly is Apostate and yes I do believe we must come out of her. Now let me explain what that means. I do not believe that means we must not go to the gatherings, but to not be identified with them as the "Church" The Church is the Body of Christ where ever it may exist; The true believers. We are not Catholics, Methodist, Baptists or any other man made order, but Christians plain and simple. Our purpose for gathering together is not to do some religious duty, but for fellowship, learning, and teaching among other things. There are many sincere hungry people that go to the denominational system, and God may use you there to spread the word. To "come out of her" means be separate, not a part of the value system, not subject to it's authority. The word CHURCH actually means "Called out ones". It is not a building nor an organization, but a living breathing entity. As far as leaving America, I don't know that would be necessary. I do think that the major seats of our society like New York City, Washington DC London Paris and the major cities will experience one plague and disaster after another in the days ahead; So it may be that you would want to begin to seek an alternative to the city. I do not want to create any fear, but that you learn more and more to hear Gods voice and seek his leading. If you trust Him, He will show you what to do as the time comes, and you will know in your heart that you are making the right choices. I would warn you about listening to anyone's directives for what you are supposed to do. In the days ahead, the light will get brighter and the darkness will get darker. You will know what to do if you seek the truth. We would all rather carefully lay out plans, but God seems to have a way of spoiling them. Plans are our way of avoiding the leading of The Spirit. "The just shall live by faith". Fear Not!! We can not save ourselves. Mk:8:35: "For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it."
You ask about how many will be saved... My belief is that God has won this war. By that I mean that in the end a majority of the people that have lived will be saved from damnation. I would say that 1/3 will be damned and 2/3s will be saved. In Revelation 12:4: it says that Satan's tail drew a Third of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth. The Stars are both a type of the Angels and the people (souls). I wouldn't build a doctrine on this but just seems to fit to me. I also believe that there is a difference between being saved and Phil:3:14: "I press toward the mark for the prize of the HIGH CALLING of God in Christ Jesus." or Eph:4:15 "Growing up " or the Narrow Gate of Mt:7:14. We will discuss this subject more at a later time.
When I continue on with the subject of Babylon, I fear some may think me a loon. But I must preach what God has given me and let the consequences be whatever they are.
May the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Phil:4:7

Rome and The World Empire

The Great Image

Several people have been asking about the “Great Whore” and who she is.
I have begun to wright on this subject, but before I post on it I thought it would be of benefit to repeat this which I had previously posted first. I believe this can be eye opening. Please prayerfully consider this subject.All the arguments that the EU is the revived Roman empire, and that the Antichrist can't come from the US because we are not the revived Roman Empire, remind me again of the Pharisees. Remember they searched the scriptures, but they searched to justify their positions and themselves. They were not searching for Truth. One of the problems that the Pharisees had in recognizing Jesus was because they thought that "Elias" (Elijah) the prophet must first come Mt:17:10. He was right under their nose, but they didn't see him because he didn't fit into their scheme of things, and they were too busy persecuting him. Mt:11:14: "And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, (speaking of John the Baptist) which was for to come." He was not the actual reincarnation of Elias, nor had he come back from Heaven (he never died), but he was of the "Spirit of Elias". This is why Jesus said "If you can receive it".Maybe it will help if we look at just what the spirit of the Roman empire is.If we look back in the Book of Daniel, we see in Chap 2:31: “Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.32: This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,33: His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.34: Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.35: Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.”Just as numbers have significance so do the metals. As we read on in the chapter, he interprets the image as kingdoms that were there then and that were to come. The Image ultimately speaks of the “Kingdoms of this World” and their makeup. The head was of gold; this was Babylon. Gold is significant of divinity. In this case it was man's representation of god, idolatry. Babylon was the seat of idol worship and false religion. The next empire to arise was inferior. The shoulders and arms were of silver. Silver speaks of salvation and government; In this case mans effort to have unity without the truth of God. "The government shall be upon His shoulders". The Head rests on the shoulders. This empire was the Medo-Persian. Many scholars would trace back the origins of the concept of "Democracy" to the Medo-Persian empire. Next was the belly of brass. This was Alexander's Greece. Brass was of less value than silver but still considered of value and used in exchange. These three metals were all used in the tabernacle of the congregation where the Arc of the Covenant sat. Brass represents culture and sacrifice.It was Greece that was the origin of our modern day culture; theatre, art, philosophy and medicine (serpent on a stick symbol). This metal is less valuable just as we don't consider our culture as important as our religion or our government. Each empire that came along built upon the preceding empires taking their gods and their governmental form.Then this figure was set upon legs of Iron, Imperial Rome. Iron is stronger than any of the other metals, but not considered valuable. Iron is about force. It is the Law. Rv:2:27:" And he shall rule them with a rod of iron" Ruling by law just or unjust. This was Rome. They took the religions of Babylon, ( the Greek gods were the same ), the government of Medo-Persia, the culture of Greece, and built it all on a foundation of law backed up with brute force. It all worked very well for a long time. But.... the problem was it was all built on feet that were of iron and clay. Clay is significant of the flesh of man. Iron does not mix with clay, just as we are incapable of keeping the law. That is why we needed a savior, because we have all broken God's law. Now we see a stone that was cut out without hands ( Christ), which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and broke them to pieces... Then the whole thing comes tumbling down, and is burned up like chaff. Then the wind carries it away The breath of God the Holy Spirit....and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, (the Kingdom of God) and filled the whole earth.Now let's think about it. America is the revival of the Roman Empire. It is of the same spirit. Its ways have filled the whole earth. Even if Europe were to somehow get a stronger army, it is still this same empire. Everything that is Europe today is of America. Not just Europe but the whole world is under its influence. They have our form (with some variations) of government, our culture with music and trade and sports etc. English is the international language, the dollar is the standard bearer. At the head of it all is that head of Gold. They all worship the gods of false religion and the god of mammon and the corporate deities.Rv:9:2: And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. Could this be Oil ? It comes from a seemingly bottomless pit, and it has filled the whole earth with its smoke ( air pollution). What a coincidence that God has put all that oil under Islam. Watch what is happening now. The Antichrist has started a war in Babylon ( modern day Iraq ) .Now he is laying the plans to attack Medo-Persia (Iran, Syria). Is Greece next? or is it his attacks against homosexuals (Greece known for its homosexual culture) that are going to go from just legal bans against equality to escalate into a slaughter. Jerry Falwell has blamed them for 9/11 and the Tsunami that hit in Dec. 04, endeavoring to villify them thereby justifying a massacre. This President is blood thirsty, greedy, and arrogant as befitting the Antichrist.

Strong Delusion

Satanic Salute

Yesterday we began the hearings on the “Downing Street Memo” http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/061705Z.shtml . The main stream media barely covered it and when they did they put a spin on it to make it appear that it was old news.
This Memo is an official British Government document. In it, it clearly shows that George W. Bush and his administration had intent to twist the intelligence that we received in order to justify going to war. The Republican controlled Congress tried to block this hearing from even being held, they were forced to meet in a small basement room while several other important votes were being held. I urge you to watch them on C-SPAN, you may need to check on line as to when it will be seen again. As exciting as it was to see that some on Capital Hill are beginning to get a clue as to what is really going on, I am afraid that somehow their efforts will be squashed.
We should not underestimate the degree to which the Antichrist will go. The reason people have trouble believing this is that they don’t really believe there is such a thing as the Antichrist or that anyone could be so evil as to cause the death of several hundred thousand so far. I am saying not only did they lie and exploit the events of 9/11 to bring about a war to expand the Empire, but they also planed and carried out the events of 9/11 themselves as well. Go to http://www.question911.com/.
2Thes:2: 8: “And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10: And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11: And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13: But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:”
This “Delusion” explains how they are able to get by with so much without the Religious Right or most of the public really caring; How the CRIMES of Tom Delay can be allowed to be ignored; How Bill Frist can lie about his diagnosis of Terri Schiavo who has been now proven to be blind therefore not able to respond to any visual stimulation; How Dick Chaney can provide no bid contracts to Halliburton.
2Tm:3:13: “But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.”
The days ahead are going to get much worse. We will go into Iran to spread the reign of the Empire of the Antichrist System. I believe we will see some kind of terrible attack on American soil and that will give them the justification to go after the “terrorists” I fear what we may see here will be Nuclear. I hope I am wrong. It may be that Iran will fall relatively easily. It is true that the young people in Iran want to be free of the rule of the Mullahs. They do not have the natural divisions among the people that are found in Iraq.
This will give the “Beast” here much honor and glory Rv: 13:4: “And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” Americans will swell in national “Pride”, and “Patriotism”. Because their true god is Mammon, Capitalism run by the “Corporation”. This God is encouraged by the distractions of the Whore Babylon, Most of organized religion, the Religious Right and the Church of Rome. Her distractions are to bog people down with trivial things that all are guilty of committing. Straining at a gnat and swallowing a camel. They will go after Gays more and more even rounding them up and killing those that don’t fall in line. Rv:18:4: “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” (I am not saying that there are not real honest sincere believers in and among them, obviously there are, or the Word would not exhort us to come out of Her)
I have said before that George W. Bush has no intention of ever leaving office. Think about it, He can not; because if he were to lose control he would end up being tried for Treason and War Crimes. Now we see that the works have already begun to do away with the 22nd amendment that limits a president to two terms. http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/06/319395.shtml They will find a way either through a change in the constitution, or a national emergency.
When the rest of the world finally sees and understands what is going on and what is happening with the building of the Revival of the Roman Empire; The land grab and control of the world Oil supplies in collusion with the Saudis, they will rise up. We will then see a confrontation with China, Russia and perhaps even Europe.
Hag:1:9: “Ye looked for much, and, lo, it came to little; and when ye brought it home, I did blow upon it. Why? saith the LORD of hosts. Because of mine house that is waste, and ye run every man unto his own house.” The true Church, the body of believers is weak and without the power God intends because we are all doing our own thing, rather than building up the House of the Lord. That will change.
Stay tuned, watch, trim your wicks and keep your lamp filled with oil. We are seeing prophecy being fulfilled right before our eyes, and the dawning of the age of “The Kingdom of God” Hallelujah!

Believe and Be Baptized

Buried under the water

When we hear the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, we encounter a person that can be life changing. As we read the Gospels you are faced with a life that is so different than anything we see in this world. Jesus said Jn: 14:6 “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” Some may react and say “How Dare He make such a claim” He was either crazy, a liar or He was just telling the Truth. Many different religions will try to point you in the direction of “Truth”; but Jesus said “I am the Truth” The truth now goes from some scattered bunch of ideas to a Person, a person that is GOD incarnate. Not only did he make this claim, but He then backed it up by rising from the dead. Peter said 2Pt:1:16: “For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.” What Peter is saying here is that they didn’t make this story up. He saw and heard the Master with his own eyes and ears. He was convinced enough to be willing to die for it, and he did. He was crucified upside down in Rome. I believe God required him to be martyred for us today. So we would see that he was convinced himself and it was indeed life changing and required his life here on Earth. I make this point as evidence of his faith. All of our faith is built on evidence. Let me make this analogy. When we go to sit in a chair we are willing to trust it because the evidence is such that you believe it will hold you. You look at it, and it seems strong, you may have seen others sit in it, and therefore based on the evidence you are willing to trust that it will hold you so you take a step of faith and sit in it. Then you have the knowledge that the step of faith you took was valid. We can only know God by faith. St. Augustine said “man seeks to have knowledge without faith, but without faith he will have neither knowledge nor faith.” Faith comes first, and then if the faith is real the knowledge and fruit will come as a result of that faith. Faith also grows. We must be faithful in that which is least in order to receive more. Lk: 16:10: “He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much.”
As we walk daily we have opportunities to trust him, and grow in faith.
Are you saying “ok ok what does this have to do with being baptized?” Well if you noticed the title of this post it is Believe and be Baptized so I wanted to touch on faith first because baptism is an act of faith.
The word Baptize comes from the Greek word “baptizo”. It means to wash and immerse/submerge. We are a three part being, Body Soul, and Spirit. So in a way there are three baptisms. When we come to Christ and encounter HIM, and I want to emphasize HIM, (not just some doctrine) something happens. We see a wisdom and a love that is far greater than what we have seen or known. I spoke of knowing God through His creation in another post, but there is obviously so much more revealed about Him in the written Word. When we truly meet the Lord, and we recognize the truth, something happens inside. Your heart and/or soul is moved. Then a decision is made because you have then also seen yourself. Hopefully that decision is to recognize that you want Him to be the Lord of your Life, not to be your own lord. You give yourself to Him who loved you and died for you. 1Cor:6:20 “ye are not your own for ye are bought with a price” and God breathes His spirit in you and you are “born again”. In a sense this is the baptism of the soul. I say Baptism because in a sense you are submerging your soul to submit to Him. Let me explain. The soul is the seat of the Will, Heart/Emotions and Mind/Intellect. Do you see the oneness and threeness again? I said we are a three part being and in each part there is the threeness again. We see this pattern in the Tabernacle of the congregation that the children of Israel carried through the wilderness. It is a type of the Body of Christ. There was the “Outer Court” it was significant of the Body which has three parts; Flesh, Blood, and Bone. These correspond to the three aspects of the outer court. The Gate/fence, Brazen Alter, and Bronze Laver (these can be a whole additional lesson). Then was the “Holy Place” It contained the “Table of Showbread” = The Will, which is displayed continually before God. It is submitted to God “Not my will but thine be done” also in the holy place was the “Golden Lamp stand” = The mind/intellect submitted to God “the mind of Christ the Wisdom of God” and last in the holy place was the “Alter of Incense” = The Heart/Emotions It was the sweet smelling savor that came up before the Throne of God in the Holiest of All. The Incense represented the worship, praise and prayers of the saints. Yes you guessed it the “Holiest of All” is representative of the Spirit. And we enter into the spirit through praise and worship “Hallowed be thy name” In the Holiest of All sat the “Ark of the Covenant” where God rested. Inside the Ark where three objects which represent the three aspects of the spirit. There was Moses tablets of stone = Faith, a bowl of Manna = Hope and Aarons rod that budded = Love
Salvation begins with the baptism of the soul; a calling upon God, a humbling yourself before Him, and submerging of your soul.
Water Baptism is the baptism of the body. It is a physical identification with the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. Rom: 6: 3: “Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4: Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5: For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7: For he that is dead is freed from sin.”; This is the outward expression of a profession of faith. The old man is dead with Him on the Cross, and then we are buried under the water and come up in the likeness of His resurrection. 1Pt:3:21: “The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:” Peter is here telling us that baptism is a helpful part of our salvation. Sometimes people don’t exactly know when they were “Saved” or “Born again” (if you will excuse those religious right expressions, but they stole them from us and they are real.) It isn’t always because you said “The sinner’s prayer”. Sometimes it happens seemingly over a period of time, or you just always knew it in your heart. But then at some point you profess your faith Rom: 10:10: “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Then when you are baptized you know you have a time in space where you cut off the flesh by faith and identified with the Cross. Remember Jesus Himself was baptized. Mt: 3:14: “But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?” Mk: 16:16: “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.” This verse sees baptism as part of being saved, the natural extension of faith; but notice it is the unbelieving that causes the damnation, not the failure to be baptized. It is meant to be a blessing and a joyful experience, not something that you should feel required to do, but something you desire to do. In the book of Acts it shows the believers where baptized. Acts: 8:12: “But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.” When people come to me and say “you mean I have to be baptized?” I say “no, you get to be baptized”. May I recommend the sea or a lake or a river? It doesn’t say anywhere in the scripture that it must be done by an “ordained minister” any believer will do, for you are doing it unto the Lord.
Acts: 2:38: Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. This brings us to the third baptism, the “Baptism of the Spirit” Acts: 1:5: For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence. I will do another post on the Baptism of the spirit. This is a whole other subject, but it is God empowering His Church.
Mt: 3:11: I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Amen Lord Jesus.

Love & Choice

Love & Rape


The political arm of the Fundamentalists has boiled Christianity down to two issues; Abortion and Homosexuality. The truth is that those running these campaigns couldn’t care less about either issue, but see these as Hot button issues to polarize and mobilize voters. They presume to pretend they are of such high moral ground; as though they are not guilty of having had sex outside the marriage bond, and then they go around condemning others. "Know ye not that by what measure you judge you will be judged?" Are you going to tell us that the things they are accusing those others of, they themselves are not guilty of? Too bad these were not in the crowd with Jesus when the harlot was brought to Him for he truly would have found his men. The harlot surely would have been stoned. Hypocrites! Woe unto you, "the harlots shall go into the kingdom of God before you." Mt: 21:31. Who made them the judge over anyone's life choices? It was God who gave us a choice; it is Antichrist that would like to take it away. God would guide us into truth and He gave us a conscience so that we hopefully will make the right choice. Would you declare that we don't need the ability to choose anymore, because your righteousness has made that choice for us? I am not saying I believe in abortion, (as much as they want to frame it that way with right wing spin) but we know that life has many different turns and circumstances. Some have been raped or abused, or are in poverty. I agree that perhaps it is taken far too lightly and may be occurring far too often; but the answer to that would be counseling and teaching. We should help people care more about the sanctity of their own bodies. If it is outlawed, it will go underground and women will be butchered in back alleys. Who am I to tell anyone what is the right choice in their circumstance. I would just pray that they would make the right choice. Ah but you would say they are murdering babies, because they are making the wrong choice. That would be for God to decide. Let me remind you that God foreknowing the choice we would make in the garden, knowing that the wrong choice would bring the fall of man, with all its suffering; Knowing we would make the wrong choice, still allowed us the choice. It is man making himself God (antichrist) that would take away choice. To say that life begins at conception is a theological belief. It follows a line of thinking that conception if left to its natural path would result in a baby. That is true, but that doesn't mean that if interrupted at some early point, that it is at that point a baby with a soul. The belief that we should not interfere comes from a few scriptures like Mt: 19:6: “Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder” The problem is that these scriptures are dealing with marriage or being born again. On the other hand some would say that a child becomes a living soul with its first breath. Gen: 2:7: “And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.” It is amazing to me that anyone would be so adamant over a questionable soul, and have no regard over those that are unquestionable. The Bush's have killed hundreds of thousands so far. There is no shadowy theological question about that.
The other lie that has been spread to purely play on people’s prejudices is the Gay issue. The idea is that a gay person is automatically in sin and separated from God. This bigotry is preached from the pulpit of the Religious Right. You are lead to believe that homosexuality is a choice. That idea is completely unsubstantiated. Ask any gay person what they think. Yet these people automatically discount what gays say as unreliable and their word is reliable, even though they have not experienced what a gay person goes through. I would ask, “When did you choose to be straight?” I think that is an excellent question. Who in their right mind would choose a life of discrimination and persecution? If the homosexual has a promiscuous life, I would ask whose fault is that? I would give the blame to the Church. If you have been taught that you are condemned already, then why not just go and indulge all your lusts. There is a difference between love and lust, straight or gay. Mt: 23:13: “But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.” Christ died for Gay people also. As a result of the rejection they have experienced, many seek for a spiritual life in all kinds of places, from cults to Eastern religions. We as Christians are called to preach the Gospel of the Kingdom and lift up the glory of Jesus. Any cleaning up of our lives is done in the presence of God as we come boldly before His throne that we may receive grace to help. Heb: 4:16: “Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.” In other words we should not put the cart before the horse, we do not clean up our lives first in order to come before God; we come before God as we are and he cleans us up. To tell a gay person that he must stop being gay is the same as telling a straight person to stop being straight. To most of us that would seem just impossible. It is a part of your very fabric. Again in Matthew in the same passage dealing with shutting up the Kingdom we see this; Mt: 23:4: “For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.” I know that with God all things are possible, but it would appear that this is not an issue to God. Jesus never mentions it.
Even if it were important, where would you get that kind of grace to change? Only because you were in love with the Most High God, and to be in love you would need to be able to come as you are so you could know Him; not turned away before you are even getting started.
I think it would be important to look at exactly what the Bible does say about this subject, which is amazingly little. As Al Franken put it “if you took out of the Bible everything that has to do with homosexuality, you would wouldn’t even notice a difference; but if you took out everything that has to do with looking out for the down trodden and the sick and the poor, you would have a box just about the right size to smuggle Rush Limbaugh’s drugs in”. There is no question that Gods creation was meant to be for Man to desire a Woman. What most over look is that we are living in a fallen creation. There are all kinds of things that are not quite in the perfection that God intended. If a person is born with an abnormality would you say they are going to hell for it? No, and yet if the world were in Gods perfect order, there would be no imperfections.
First let’s deal with the passage in Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13 ““Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” The code of Laws and customs in Leviticus were not intended for Christians. We are not under the Law but under Grace. The Old Testament Law was meant to convict all of sin so that we would know we needed a savior. No Christian group would demand that we obey all the rules that are laid down in these verses. If we did we would have to keep the kosher laws as well. We don’t demand compliance with the other sexual rules in Leviticus. If we did, we could not touch our wives during her monthly cycle and we would allow polygamy, which is lawful in Leviticus. Unless you are willing and able to obey all the rules in Leviticus, you cannot blame the homosexual for not feeling bound to obey them. To point to these two verses and demand that kind of selective compliance is ludicrous and wrong.
I use in my discussion mostly the King James Version; it seems to have less of an axe to grind than many modern day translations.
Now what about Sodom? Genesis 19:1-29 If you read this passage you will see that it says in vs. 4 “All the men young and old” It is highly unlikely that a whole city was homosexual, the whole city may have been self indulgent and lustful, but not that they would have an orientation to homosexuality. It is also apparent that these men were not looking for a consensual good time; they wanted to rape the angels. It is also clear that these men were not just homosexual but looking to fulfill their lust, or Lot would not have offered them his daughters The true sin of Sodom is revealed to us in Ezekiel:16:49: Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fullness of bread, (it seems that one of the main accusers of the homosexual is guilty of this sin of Gluttony, Have a look at those cheeks on Jerry Falwell) and abundance of idleness (this is what our entire society is caught up in idolizing movie and sports stars) was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy (tax cuts for the rich and no health care for the poor). 50: And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good. This society had become completely self indulgent.
Now let us look at the New Testament. The one passage that is seemingly the most damning is Romans 1:18-29. This scripture is not what it appears to be on the surface. This is a condemnation of ungodly ritual indulgence, which worked up into a frenzy of all manner of sexual lust. This was not a condemnation of Love between two men or between two women. If you think it is, then it carries the same condemnation of “fornication”; but for some reason these modern day Pharisees seem to skip over that part. Because they are not looking for a way to redeem those whom Christ died for but rather to condemn in order to better justify their own self-righteousness. They fail to notice what it says just a few verses down. Romans 2: 1: “Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.”
This brings us to the passage in 1 Corinthians 6: 9: “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, (I know that some new translations incorrectly have in this place the words “male prostitutes and homosexuals) 10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11: And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.” Before I get into the break down of those words, I would call your attention to the other words that I have in bold letters. These carry equal weight. The word translated in the KJV as “effeminate” would have been better translated the “self-indulgent” Does this remind you of Sodom? That word could not have anything to do with being a homosexual, because although there are effeminate homosexuals, there are plenty of effeminate straight men as well. The reason the KJV writers used that word was because they were referring to the Kings of France as being self-indulgent prancing about in their frills and “girly-man” wigs. They were what were brought to the English’s mind when you used the word effeminate. The next words “abusers of themselves with mankind” would have been better translated as “exploitation” It may have had to do with male prostitutes, but also any kind of prostitution. It was actually directed at those that used the prostitutes more so then those that were being used. They are more the victims of abuse. In our society we are surrounded with all kinds of exploitation; from the Rich to the Corporations. Anytime you do something for your advantage or pleasure that uses another, or takes advantage of their situation is to exploit them.
Unfortunately there many gay men that perhaps because of guilt or being told they must be straight end up marrying and then sneak around behind their wives back. They deny there true identity to themselves and others and as a result have a secret life. When and if they are exposed it is often disastrous to them and their families. Some even committing suicide. What a shame. Then there are those that try to combat it within themselves buy becoming “homophobic homosexuals” or “self-loathing.” Then some become just plain hypocrites. Here are a few examples. This is from the New York Times on April 9, 2005 The Article “G.O.P. Consultant Weds His Male Partner” “Arthur J. Finkelstein, a prominent Republican consultant who has directed a series of hard-edged political campaigns to elect conservatives in the United States and Israel over the last 25 years, said Friday that he had married his male partner in a civil ceremony at his home in Massachusetts.”He was actively anti-gay. Or how about this “Two men have told a Spokane, Washington, newspaper that Mayor Jim West offered them jobs after meeting in a gay Internet chat room.” Article says how he fought against any gay equality issues.
Another good site on the subject is The Real Live Preacher.
By this discussion I am not saying that the homosexual or anyone else is not called to righteousness. They are responsible for moral behavior that is not destructive to themselves or others just like everyone else that wants to know a walk with God.
I am saying though that a committed relationship based in Love can be blessed by God. It says in Hebrews 13:4: "Marriage is honorable in ALL, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." (It does not say in that passage the marriage is only honorable between a man and a woman) Gal: 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."
I realize that many are coming from a position that has been held since the middle ages. Perhaps it is time that these issues are reexamined. I believe that the truth of Gods word is being progressively restored to His Church. No question that Gods perfect order is for one man and one woman to be in a loyal blissful marriage, but unfortunately that is rare. There is a 1.Good and 2.Acceptable and 3.Perfect will of God. Rom.12.1. or none of us would marry for that is what Paul thought would be best. I am fully aware that many will disagree with this post, but my intent is not to convince everyone, but to win those that may be alienated from the Lord to "Come unto Him" Eph:1:6: To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. Let each person come before God and seek what is Gods will for their life according to His Word and their conscience. Titus:1:15: "Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled."
Lastly George W Bush may be guilty of both these things he has fought against. Abortion and Gay Rights. Now isn’t that just like the Antichrist.
We are taught by Gods word that “The truth will make you free” Jn:8:32 This teaching has liberated many to come to the Love of Christ.


We are also taught buy our Lord in Mathew 7:15: “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16: Ye shall know them by their fruits.” Now when you look at this passage, we can understand several things, one thing that would be clear is that a false prophet would teach false doctrine and false doctrine would bring forth bad fruit, as good doctrine would bring forth good fruit. Also notice that they are in sheep's clothing, which would say they are seemingly gentle and perhaps well meaning and as a sheep, maybe part of the “Flock”; but their motives are not Godly. They want to divide and concur, which is the tactic that the Republican, religious right power hungry leaders have as their intent.

Finally I would point out that Jesus tells us that we will know them not by their doctrine, but buy the end result of their doctrine “the fruit”. We are many times confused by doctrine, and men have disagreed through the ages. The smartest of men are still dumb when we look at the Wisdom of God. So Jesus made it more simple for us. He was saying here that you are not smart enough to always know the correct doctrine, so look at the end result. The “Fruit” We know what the fruit of the spirit is from Gal:5:22 “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,23: Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.” Now look at the fruit of the teaching of the fundamentalists on this subject. Young kids kill themselves, or bullies beat them up. Parents reject their own children, Men or women get married trying to hide who they are, and end up sneaking around behind their spouses backs, and not only ruin their own lives but also ruin the lives of the wife or husband they may take. These things are just “the tip of the ice berg”

These people know what it means to be despised and rejected of men.